WOIO: Browns will take either Crabs or Sanchez

[SanduskyCav]

So basically Brady/Anderson and Braylon will both be gone?

 

[Sly]

I still think it's going to be Raji. I don't care how much money is tied up in the D-Line, the "supposed" drug test failure, how much we need several other positions.

Raji and Rogers on the same line, makes the entire defense better against the run and the pass. I know it's not a "sexy" pick and very few agree, but I think it would do the most for the team as a whole.

 

[bob2the2nd]

I still think it's going to be Raji. I don't care how much money is tied up in the D-Line, the "supposed" drug test failure, how much we need several other positions.

Raji and Rogers on the same line, makes the entire defense better against the run and the pass. I know it's not a "sexy" pick and very few agree, but I think it would do the most for the team as a whole.

the problem is the guy is clearly a NT and not an end. If i remember correctly he is pretty short meaning trying to put him at end isnt going to go over very well.

If curry is there its curry

If curry is gone its either a trade down or crabtree.

 

[KIisKing]

I still think it's going to be Raji. I don't care how much money is tied up in the D-Line, the "supposed" drug test failure, how much we need several other positions.

Raji and Rogers on the same line, makes the entire defense better against the run and the pass. I know it's not a "sexy" pick and very few agree, but I think it would do the most for the team as a whole.

That is exactly who I want to draft. You know he is going to produce at an NFL level right way. Im confident Rodgers could play DE. If we drafted Raji or D-Line of Williams, Rodgers, and Raji would be a combined weight of over1,000. That is how you build a team to compete in the AFC North.

Draft with no trades:
#5- B.J Raji
#36- Louis Delmas
#50- Brian Robsike
4th round- Cedric Peerman

With one more second or maybe first we could pick up an OLB. To me that would be a great draft and it would be able to get this team back on its feet and roll from there.

 

[MDLT]

what in the world is the love affair with sanchez? He has bust written all over him. One of the measures of college QBs doing well in the NFL is 2 or more years experience starting, something sanchez doenst have. On top of that he was on a team that had 3 legitimate RBs to take the pressure off of him, something he will not have on the browns. Finally quinn has one thing above both DA and sanchez HE IS CHEAP. Sanchez at the number 5 spot is going to mean a hell of a cap hit for the browns. Even assuming they end up trading quinn then they have 2 QBs sitting on the team who take up HUGE sums of money.

Overall drafting sanchez just doesnt make sense for this team. There are MANY weaknesses this team has right now including RB, WR, G, LB, and DE that all rank ahead of QB why in the world would this team pass up all of that to draft another QB, it just doesnt make sense.

Edit: Additionally Quinn has two years experience learning an NFL system and at least limited game play, something that would take sanchez at least till the end of this year to learn (meaning another wasted year). So far he has a very limited chance to play, get comfortable, and really adjust to the NFL game. Give quinn a chance.

Agree 100%. Not so much that I care for Quinn, but Sanchez is no more of lock at QB than Brady is. Why trade one guy to wait for another to get adjusted to the NFL and still pay him more.

If Sanchez was a can't miss prospect, then sure go ahead and take him. But that doesn't seem to be the case, so what's the incentive.

I'm cool with Raji or Crabtree I think, though I'm not totally comfortable with taking a WR that high. Curry obviously if he's there, too. In an ideal world, ManKok trades down.

 

[Da_James_Gang]

Well we only have like a week to find out....

 

[DDJ7777]

1. People say our defense suck and it's stupid to go offense... did anyone remember how terrible our offense was near the end of the year? I'd venture to say our defense outplayed our offense in over 50% of the games last year.

2. Robiskie won't be there at 50. It's a pretty weak WR class this year and tOSU WR's always go pretty high.

3. At this point, it seems like BE to New York is a done deal.. so much so that there's an interview of Eli Manning gushing about how good he is and how last year was just a fluke. If that's the case, I'm perfectly fine with Crabtree at 5. If anyone watched Texas Tech vs. Texas last year, you could see what a freak the guy is.. system WR or not.

 

[bob2the2nd]

1. People say our defense suck and it's stupid to go offense... did anyone remember how terrible our offense was near the end of the year? I'd venture to say our defense outplayed our offense in over 50% of the games last year.

just because the indians scored 8 more runs today than the browns averaged last year doesnt mean the offense was terrible...oh wait.. yeah it does

 

[DawgOnKing]

Mangini leaking more QB rumors. Clever guy.

Quinn.Going.Nowhere.

Next.

 

[Prime 1978]

I think the Sanchez thing is a leak to try to get out of this 5th spot. Sanchez is probably the biggest player of interest right now and seems to be shooting up the board. I think the Browns FO is putting that out there so teams like the Jets, Broncos, Redskins (from what I'm hearing on the radio from Redskin fans Dan Snyder is in love with Sanchez), and 49ers, to want to move up to that draft spot.

 

[Zone]

what in the world is the love affair with sanchez? He has bust written all over him. One of the measures of college QBs doing well in the NFL is 2 or more years experience starting, something sanchez doenst have. On top of that he was on a team that had 3 legitimate RBs to take the pressure off of him, something he will not have on the browns. Finally quinn has one thing above both DA and sanchez HE IS CHEAP. Sanchez at the number 5 spot is going to mean a hell of a cap hit for the browns. Even assuming they end up trading quinn then they have 2 QBs sitting on the team who take up HUGE sums of money.

Overall drafting sanchez just doesnt make sense for this team. There are MANY weaknesses this team has right now including RB, WR, G, LB, and DE that all rank ahead of QB why in the world would this team pass up all of that to draft another QB, it just doesnt make sense.

Edit: Additionally Quinn has two years experience learning an NFL system and at least limited game play, something that would take sanchez at least till the end of this year to learn (meaning another wasted year). So far he has a very limited chance to play, get comfortable, and really adjust to the NFL game. Give quinn a chance.

Quinn is cheap right now, but doesn't his contract call for an $11 million bonus if he plays in 70% of the offensive plays? You can argue that amount of money will be worth it if he reaches the goal, but the flipside to that is he could reach the goal while still playing poorly because we have no other alternative (especially if DA is traded).

As for the Crabtree/Sanchez topic, I'd rather we go with Raji. Put him at NT and Rogers at DE. It will keep the LB's clean and allow them to make more plays against both the run/pass.

I like Crabtree, but you can find good WR's in the latter part of the draft (I'm even for trading BE and passing on Crabtree at #5). NT's like Raji are much harder to come by.

 

[bob2the2nd]

Quinn is cheap right now, but doesn't his contract call for an $11 million bonus if he plays in 70% of the offensive plays? You can argue that amount of money will be worth it if he reaches the goal, but the flipside to that is he could reach the goal while still playing poorly because we have no other alternative (especially if DA is traded).

As for the Crabtree/Sanchez topic, I'd rather we go with Raji. Put him at NT and Rogers at DE. It will keep the LB's clean and allow them to make more plays against both the run/pass.

I like Crabtree, but you can find good WR's in the latter part of the draft (I'm even for trading BE and passing on Crabtree at #5). NT's like Raji are much harder to come by.

yeah but the difference is quinn actually has to play to be worth that much.. sanchez will make that much per year no matter what he does.

and rogers is NOT NOT NOT a DE. Raji and Rogers are both perfect for the NT position and thats it, neither of them will transition to DE.

 

[Zone]

yeah but the difference is quinn actually has to play to be worth that much.. sanchez will make that much per year no matter what he does.

and rogers is NOT NOT NOT a DE. Raji and Rogers are both perfect for the NT position and thats it, neither of them will transition to DE.

So if Quinn doesn't play (as a result of losing out to DA, not because of injury), we just wasted an opportunity to get great value for him. Doesn't make sense to me, but I guess it depends on how people feel about BQ. I'm sure I am in the minority, but I wouldn't mind trading BQ and not drafting Stafford, Sanchez or Freeman. That's where your argument doesn't add up to what I said. Never said anything about trading BQ and drafting one of 3 QB's just mentioned.

I agree that Rogers is not a FULL-TIME Defensive End. But he can play there and NT. Rotation and depth are 2 keys to a successful 3-4 defensive line.

 

[WildThing]

If they pick Sanchez, I just.. I don't know. I'm so tired of the Browns and their stupid decisions. Instead of giving players time to develop, and making the right moves to build a TEAM...They're just messing it up.

What's the point of getting ANOTHER quarterback, when the defense and offensive line need to be fixed? I'm fine with getting Crabtree, and trading Edwards for a pick. Hopefully we'd get a defensive player. Essesntially, we'd be swapping a pick & Edwards for Crabtree & a defensive player.

 

[Phills14]

I think the Sanchez thing is a leak to try to get out of this 5th spot. Sanchez is probably the biggest player of interest right now and seems to be shooting up the board. I think the Browns FO is putting that out there so teams like the Jets, Broncos, Redskins (from what I'm hearing on the radio from Redskin fans Dan Snyder is in love with Sanchez), and 49ers, to want to move up to that draft spot.

i've been saying this for a while. Everyone says washington/Jacksonville/San fran/jets and possibly denver would be interested in Sanchez. I do not see the harm in doing this exact thing. We're not satisfied with the guys at #5, no one wants to trade up, but if we take the guy who is shooting up the board at #5 than teams will offer something for it. Force others hands to move up. It's not a bad strategy.

-Greg