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2017 Draft Prospects Thread

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T.J. Watt, JJ Watt's brother, announces he will enter the NFL Draft.
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
I hate that, even in jest, they acknowledge Grossi.

He's irrelevant and I wish he was just ignored. Don't feed the troll
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I'm hoping that once the Browns start winning, he will be terminated from his job covering the Browns. It will be the ultimate revenge for his years of snark and pessimism.
 
chrisrich91 said:
Kessler or Tyrod as a bridge, slay this draft and avoid the QBs
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You don't just avoid the position because you don't think there are elite prospects worthy of the #1 or #12 - and even this fact remains to be seen.

Tyrod is painfully average and maybe improves the team by what? 3 wins?

The Russell Wilsons, Dak Prescotts, and Derek Carrs of the world tell you to at least take a shot on a QB at some point in the draft.
 
cavsfan1985 said:
This is sort of funny. We are going to add talent to this team, a year more experience for the youngest team in football, and they think 1-15 is going to happen again. The browns found a way to lose at-least 3-4 games this year they should have won.
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Team also was ravaged by injuries, and I think Cam Erving at center just killed our OL. An improvement there could really help things a lot.
 
Mahomes declared. Don't watch much Texas Tech, but Dane Brugler seems to love his potential, although admits he is incredibly raw.
 
The only way to trade up for a franchise QB is if the team at the top of the draft has theirs in place

In other words it's luck.

I don't care how much ammo you have, if you have a QB starving team and a no brainer prospect ala Luck at the top of the draft you can offer your entire draft and they'd laugh.

Keep that in mind when discussing loading up next year's assets for a run at a top QB
 
Binkster said:
You don't just avoid the position because you don't think there are elite prospects worthy of the #1 or #12 - and even this fact remains to be seen.

Tyrod is painfully average and maybe improves the team by what? 3 wins?

The Russell Wilsons, Dak Prescotts, and Derek Carrs of the world tell you to at least take a shot on a QB at some point in the draft.
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The 3 you point out are all talented and accomplished college QBs. Russell Wilson had everything you look for in a QB except he is short. If he was 6'2-6'3 he was a top half of the 1st round QB that year. Derek Carr, had he not been David Carr's brother, in my opinion was a 1st round QB. Prescott on the other hand was always a midround talent guy. He improved every year at Miss St and went from an athlete playing QB to a QB who is also an athlete by his senior year. He showed a lot of growth and would have been a higher pick had he not gotten the DUI.

I say this because I just don't see that caliber of college player in this draft; guys that are just fundamentally sound and have the basic tools to transition to the NFL level. Most of these guys have considerable question marks, more so than the 3 you named from previous drafts.
 
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The Wizard of Moz said:
The only way to trade up for a franchise QB is if the team at the top of the draft has theirs in place

In other words it's luck.

I don't care how much ammo you have, if you have a QB starving team and a no brainer prospect ala Luck at the top of the draft you can offer your entire draft and they'd laugh.

Keep that in mind when discussing loading up next year's assets for a run at a top QB
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Which is why I have so little hope for the QB position here.
 
Gareon Conley declared. Wouldn't mind him in the second round.
 
AZ_ said:
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I like Mahomes a lot more than most. Sneaky athletic with a big arm. Obviously the system he comes from is scary, but he's actually a guy who has the tools and didn't rely solely on the offense to help him produce his numbers.

I think he could be very good at next level...honestly, I like Mahomes more than a couple guys in most peoples top 4-5.

 
Mahomes would be better, but he's simply never been developed.

His footwork is utterly terrible, he trusts his arm without setting up his throws.

It's just unfortunate, because he's got great talent. Maybe he can learn ahead of the curve at the next level as a project for someone.
 
Phills14 said:
The 3 you point out are all talented and accomplished college QBs. Russell Wilson had everything you look for in a QB except he is short. If he was 6'2-6'3 he was a top half of the 1st round QB that year. Derek Carr, had he not been David Carr's brother, in my opinion was a 1st round QB. Prescott on the other hand was always a midround talent guy. He improved every year at Miss St and went from an athlete playing QB to a QB who is also an athlete by his senior year. He showed a lot of growth and would have been a higher pick had he not gotten the DUI.

I say this because I just don't see that caliber of college player in this draft; guys that are just fundamentally sound and have the basic tools to transition to the NFL level. Most of these guys have considerable question marks, more so than the 3 you named from previous drafts.
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I admittedly cherry-picked top talent but my point is simply that sometimes lower-tier prospects can surprise the hell out of you and it's worth a flier.
 
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