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Not going to proclaim Santana is going to turn it around because time certainly is not on his side with only a handful of games left in the regular season, but this production isn't that far off what we're used to seeing from Santana to start the season. Below are his splits in the first 232-235 PA in the last 6 seasons.

But they are his worst numbers and it's probably amplified by how amazing he was in 2019. Again, not proclaiming he's going to just suddenly come around but I also wouldn't completely rule him out.

2015: .226 / .374 / .376; 111 wRC+
2016: .217 / .328 / .409; 96 wRC+
2017: .229 / .325 / .400; 90 wRC+
2018: .216 / .332 / .433; 106 wRC+
2019: .284 / .409 / .505; 136 wRC+
2020: .194 / .349 / .312; 88 wRC+
 
It seems like just a few weeks ago that the world thought Hosey was a disappointing, pop out machine. Looking around the league, 55 games makes quite a few players seem...odd.

BTW. Jose's 2019 pre ASG stats were trash. By trash, I mean smellier than Los's 2020 trash. Like a hoarder's living room floor with old poo on it.
 
BTW. Jose's 2019 pre ASG stats were trash. By trash, I mean smellier than Los's 2020 trash. Like a hoarder's living room floor with old poo on it.
And like Jose, it's an issue with his timing mechanism (the front foot step)

No guarantees, obviously, but as we saw with Jose, it can turn for the better very quickly.
 
Not going to proclaim Santana is going to turn it around because time certainly is not on his side with only a handful of games left in the regular season, but this production isn't that far off what we're used to seeing from Santana to start the season. Below are his splits in the first 232-235 PA in the last 6 seasons.

But they are his worst numbers and it's probably amplified by how amazing he was in 2019. Again, not proclaiming he's going to just suddenly come around but I also wouldn't completely rule him out.

2015: .226 / .374 / .376; 111 wRC+
2016: .217 / .328 / .409; 96 wRC+
2017: .229 / .325 / .400; 90 wRC+
2018: .216 / .332 / .433; 106 wRC+
2019: .284 / .409 / .505; 136 wRC+
2020: .194 / .349 / .312; 88 wRC+
Carlos is a second half player; he's been that way his entire career for the most part. Unfortunately, in 2020 there is no second half.
 
so looking at the playoffs and rules someone please let me know if I am off base here.

The indians by virtue of being 3rd in the central fall into the "wild card" slots. Meaning unless they over take the white sox or the twins, everything else is a moot point.

If the indians manage to over take the white sox or the twins chances are they would go from the 7th seed to the 4th or 5th seed. But realistically the only way they over take a team would probably be the white sox, and the indians would have to complete this series with a sweep (winning the next 2 days), but indians would then to sweep the pirates and have then have white sox lose 2 of 3 to the cubs.

That said seeding is/might be ultimately irrelevant as seeds 1 through 7 in the AL are currently seperated by all of 4.5 games, meaning no team stands out as a true scary team.
 
so looking at the playoffs and rules someone please let me know if I am off base here.

The indians by virtue of being 3rd in the central fall into the "wild card" slots. Meaning unless they over take the white sox or the twins, everything else is a moot point.

If the indians manage to over take the white sox or the twins chances are they would go from the 7th seed to the 4th or 5th seed. But realistically the only way they over take a team would probably be the white sox, and the indians would have to complete this series with a sweep (winning the next 2 days), but indians would then to sweep the pirates and have then have white sox lose 2 of 3 to the cubs.

That said seeding is/might be ultimately irrelevant as seeds 1 through 7 in the AL are currently seperated by all of 4.5 games, meaning no team stands out as a true scary team.
Agreed. Bring on whoever.

Bieber-Carrasco-Plesac gives us a great chance in a series against anyone.
 
so looking at the playoffs and rules someone please let me know if I am off base here.

The indians by virtue of being 3rd in the central fall into the "wild card" slots. Meaning unless they over take the white sox or the twins, everything else is a moot point.

If the indians manage to over take the white sox or the twins chances are they would go from the 7th seed to the 4th or 5th seed. But realistically the only way they over take a team would probably be the white sox, and the indians would have to complete this series with a sweep (winning the next 2 days), but indians would then to sweep the pirates and have then have white sox lose 2 of 3 to the cubs.

That said seeding is/might be ultimately irrelevant as seeds 1 through 7 in the AL are currently seperated by all of 4.5 games, meaning no team stands out as a true scary team.
With about five games remaining for most of the 8 clubs in contention for post season play in the American League... a three out of five or four out of five loss coupled with a corresponding win by a club is the only thing that's going to change who is playing who where.. As of this writing.. the upper half of the AL Bracket has:

Tampa at home playing the Blue Jays;;
Minnesota at home playing the Yankees..

the lower half of the AL Bracket has:

CWSox at home against the Indians
Oakland A's at home against the Astros

Winners of these four three game series.. play each other in their bracket for the ALDS series followed by the winners of playing for the right to play for the world championship in the World Series....

Not much is going to change from this...
 
With about five games remaining for most of the 8 clubs in contention for post season play in the American League... a three out of five or four out of five loss coupled with a corresponding win by a club is the only thing that's going to change who is playing who where.. As of this writing.. the upper half of the AL Bracket has:

Tampa at home playing the Blue Jays;;
Minnesota at home playing the Yankees..

the lower half of the AL Bracket has:

CWSox at home against the Indians
Oakland A's at home against the Astros

Winners of these four three game series.. play each other in their bracket for the ALDS series followed by the winners of playing for the right to play for the world championship in the World Series....

Not much is going to change from this...
Its definitely unlikely we see wholesale changes, but if the indians could cause some chaos if they were to sweep the white sox
 
In re Santana:

Again, how do you rearrange the lineup to make it more productive. If we had a long lineup producing up and down, moving a black hole out of the cleanup spot is an easy call. When you only have one or two productive bats out of nine, it makes little, if any, difference.

We were told on this forum ad nauseum that all we needed to get Frankie going was to move him back to lead off. But he has been much worse since that move. Jose getting super hot has been the difference lately, not Frankie leading off.

Somebody (plural), besides Jose and Hernandez, are gonna have to start producing on a regular basis in order to back up our pitching in the post season.

Looking at the available players, who is/are the most likely?

Not Deshields, the catchers, Naquin, Naylor, Chang, Freeman. Obviously, Luplow is not gonna get a shot this late in the season.

So, its gonna fall on Lindor, Santana, and Reyes....based on what they have done in the past, and the damage they can do when they are on. The whole premise of the offense was built around those three, plus Jose and Hernandez. Years of decision making went into it.

We will live or die with those five. The FO wont change horses in the middle of the stream.

As for what I see with Santana, it hasn't changed over the past decade. I have no idea how he hits a baseball. Loooonnnngggg swing that always looks slow to me and that should be full of holes, but an uncanny ability to judge the strike zone. His stride, a timing device, drives me nuts. It can't work, but it does much of the time. So many moving parts, he is the antithesis of Michael Brantley.

But there is some cause for optimism, one of which is his penchant for slow starts. Also, what seems to be isnt necessarily what is.

He seems to be striking out a ton. It seems like he is pulling the ball more than ever. It seems that he is hitting a lot of pop ups and weak fly balls. But he's not doing any of those more than normal, last season being somewhat of an outlier.

An example...he is going the opposite way more than he has in nine years.

Its difficult to measure his numbers in this shortened season to what he's done over the course of previous 162 game seasons, and I suspect that his present numbers would look very similar if measured against the first thirds of those previous seasons, but one number sticks out...his BABIP is .210...83 points lower than last year, 39 points lower than his worst year, and 56 lower than his career number.

By almost every measurement, Carlos is due a huge positive regression. Will it come in time to help this year? I dunno. But IMO its far more likely than one of our never beens to suddenly become a middle of the order bat.

Its painful to watch him bat. But if I'm Sandy...and there is no internal indication of his bat speed slowing down, which we aren't privileged to...he stays where he is, because he's our best option moving forward.
 
Somebody (plural), besides Jose and Hernandez, are gonna have to start producing on a regular basis in order to back up our pitching in the post season.

I feel your pain, but we do not need production on a regular basis in the short series, we just need timely production, even if it is a different guy each game. We are what we are, which is not always pretty, but if the pitching can keep us in the game, anyone can be a hero for the day. Just win, baby.... :cool:
 

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