Don't want to get too worried after 1 game, but definitely felt some RJ Barret vibes watching Cunningham. He can do it all, but can he do it with efficiency? Is he skilled enough with the ball to make up for the meh athleticism?
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Based on last year's film, the shot is a pretty long way away. He's very left hand dominant, so I'm hoping to see more skill development as a soph beyond lefty runners. I think he'd be limited to rim rolls & o-reb with where he was as a freshman.
He moves very well at his size, but has just okay not great defensive feel in my opinion. I think the stock numbers are partially boosted by the size/athleticism advantages he had playing a lot of his minutes at the 4 next to Joey Brunk. The Big Ten had some quality bigs last year with NBA size (Garza, Cockburn, Haarms), and I thought they usually got the best of him when matched up.
Maybe he can play small ball five in spurts, but overall I saw a guy that could pose fit issues as a non-shooting, one position defender. I fully expect him to improve this year, though and think he deserves an NBA shot regardless.
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Tough crowd.
I think he lacks vertical athleticism to a degree but man, he moves exceptionally well side to side and changing speeds......and his length mitigates his vertical pop. Is he not potentially American Luka?
RJ’s problem was the compounding effects of him being a poor shooter, lacking creativity with the ball and also lacking court vision.
Cade isn’t an Uber athlete but he’s an improved shooter......off the catch and on the move, he has an exceptionally good handle for 6’8” and while a little reckless with the ball, has what looks like elite vision. He more strikes me as being the player people thought RJ would be. Will be interested to see how he develops.
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Mentioned up thread but besides this being the opening game of the season, OK State is also basically an entirely brand new team of guys who have never played together. 5 freshman and 3 transfers. I suspect that as they gel a little bit more, Cade’s playmaking skills will shine brighter. Same with game speed, I’m guessing it take some games before getting to that full natural game speed and comfort. Overall seemed like a really great start to the season for him.
Tough crowd.
I think he lacks vertical athleticism to a degree but man, he moves exceptionally well side to side and changing speeds......and his length mitigates his vertical pop. Is he not potentially American Luka?
RJ’s problem was the compounding effects of him being a poor shooter, lacking creativity with the ball and also lacking court vision.
Cade isn’t an Uber athlete but he’s an improved shooter......off the catch and on the move, he has an exceptionally good handle for 6’8” and while a little reckless with the ball, has what looks like elite vision. He more strikes me as being the player people thought RJ would be. Will be interested to see how he develops.
Exceptionally good handle? I think that's where he's a lot more Barrett than Luka. He just randomly lost control of his dribble a couple times I was watching him. Also has the Barrett thing where he lets the defense dictate and gets himself into awkward positions in traffic, in contrast to Luka who's always in the driver's seat.
I do grant that he seems to be a better shooter and a better passer than RJ, though.
Yeah, gotta remind myself it's just game 1
A lot of the top prospects have been turnover machines today. Rusty. That'll improve no doubt.
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He looked a little clunky I agree. But there were a few drives where he seemed to change gear, like that pissed off one after a foul. Like if he can raise his assirtiveness like that... That's scary.
Even the clunky drives resulted mostly in pretty good opportunities because of his size and vision and vision. What a package.
Where the game gave me more hesitation is his defense though. He doesn't seem too quick or too strong, little stiff. His instincts and head will mitigate some for sure, but doesn't he look like someone who will struggle against nba athletes?
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Guys, we are in a very good spot.
I've seen enough of Mobley to know we are covered in the PF/C spot. Yes, after just one game. I was pleasantly surprised by his upper body build. I had a notion that he was narrower, but his build will allow to add upper body mass. He will be able to play the 4/5 pretty easily. He does have high hips, but i'm not concerned about it.
He is a tier above any center/pf in last years draft. He is so explosive as a roller, he is bouncy as fuck, he moves well, he has great touch on his hooks, mid range, outside shot looks pretty good..he is very high iq with his passing and awareness.
I'm really happy with that.
I've seen enough of Mobley to know we are covered in the PF/C spot. Yes, after just one game. I was pleasantly surprised by his upper body build. I had a notion that he was narrower, but his build will allow to add upper body mass. He will be able to play the 4/5 pretty easily. He does have high hips, but i'm not concerned about it.
He is a tier above any center/pf in last years draft. He is so explosive as a roller, he is bouncy as fuck, he moves well, he has great touch on his hooks, mid range, outside shot looks pretty good..he is very high iq with his passing and awareness.
I'm really happy with that.
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I don't want to be that guy, but I think this is a draft to tank, and I hate this word, but....we can't try to reach he playoffs this year.
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I agree. Thank god the PO mandate didn't go through.
Hopefully we'll see the guys improve and try but ultimately finish in the bottom 3 to get our legit n1 guy. Would really round out the roster.
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Have you watched Mobley yet?
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What caught my attention was he was clapping every time a teammate made a play with encouragement even if it had nothing to do with him. You don’t see that at all with high level one and dones sometimes.Tough crowd.
I think he lacks vertical athleticism to a degree but man, he moves exceptionally well side to side and changing speeds......and his length mitigates his vertical pop. Is he not potentially American Luka?
RJ’s problem was the compounding effects of him being a poor shooter, lacking creativity with the ball and also lacking court vision.
Cade isn’t an Uber athlete but he’s an improved shooter......off the catch and on the move, he has an exceptionally good handle for 6’8” and while a little reckless with the ball, has what looks like elite vision. He more strikes me as being the player people thought RJ would be. Will be interested to see how he develops.
Yes his leaping ability and burst are not his strength but I don’t think they hold him back from being an all star. Luka is an interesting comparison, and perhaps not a crazy one to make. I think Luka is more skilled and more advanced, but I don’t think Cade is drastically behind and will have way more defensive potential.
I think he will be hard to pass up at one for any team if he continues to show a jumper and ability to finish in traffic. Wings who can play pg and create for others and get a bucket for themselves are worth gold in the modern NbA.
I am actually looking forward in watching Clarke- Even though Boston Jr has more hype as a prospect I feel Clarke’s game has potential to be a superstar in the NBA and feel he can make more of a difference to the team.