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Did Koby Altman nail the rebuild?

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Nphan said:
Yup i agree. The question is how will Koby pull this off without giving away too much.
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I think he will have to string together some trades before draft day. Maybe trade away 3 second round picks to get into the late first. Then trade Prince plus that first for a mid round first. Take back someone less useful than Prince maybe on a two year contract. Package #3 and a mid first rounder to get to #1
 
Nphan said:
Koby can still fix this rebuild and keep this current team core together if he can trade from 3 to 1 and still keep Sexton and Allen. Draft Cunningham because he fits the current team build.

PG : Garland
SG : Sexton
SF : Cunningham
PF : Nance Jr (if he's not traded)
C : Allen

I'm sure this is what Koby wants.
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I’m not sure that line-up works, either. Then you have a point-forward and two shrimpy combo-guards who can’t defend? No, thanks. No matter what, one of SexLand has to go. We need to have two wings of normal size. One of those can possibly be Okoro, but the other has to be like 6’8.
 
KilgoreTrout said:
I’m not sure that line-up works, either. Then you have a point-forward and two shrimpy combo-guards who can’t defend? No, thanks. No matter what, one of SexLand has to go. We need to have two wings of normal size. One of those can possibly be Okoro, but the other has to be like 6’8.
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With Cade, you can break up Garland and Sexton in the rotation. Maybe you bring Sexland in against second units which I think they would have no problem outscoring despite the defensive issues.

You just need to fill the roster up with more wings. Having two small guard is the rotation isn't the issue. It's having two small guards that also have to carry the scoring load together. A 3rd scorer that is at least wing size solves that problem. Adding a point forward that can score like Cade also eliminates the need to add another guard to the rotation to add playmaking and ball handling. Basically Cade can make up alot of the limitations of Garland, Okoro, and Sexton.
 
Cade isn’t a point forward. He fits well because he brings shooting, which we lack, but we would still be in need a PG to share the floor with Sexton when Garland sits.
 
Derek said:
Cade isn’t a point forward. He fits well because he brings shooting, which we lack, but we would still be in need a PG to share the floor with Sexton when Garland sits.
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Point forward or not, I question how Cade would fit here, with Garland, as he’s a ball-dominant player? His low assists & high turnover numbers suggest he’s not a point forward and that he was likely trying to do too much in college. Can he play off the ball successfully? Maybe, but he really hasn’t done it much. I wouldn’t trade up for Cade, as I’m not sure about his fit here, what it might mean for Garland, and the cost would obviously be steep.
 
sailfish said:
Point forward or not, I question how Cade would fit here, with Garland, as he’s a ball-dominant player? His low assists & high turnover numbers suggest he’s not a point forward and that he was likely trying to do too much in college. Can he play off the ball successfully? Maybe, but he really hasn’t done it much. I wouldn’t trade up for Cade, as I’m not sure about his fit here, what it might mean for Garland, and the cost would obviously be steep.
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He fits well with Garland because he needs a PG to be successful. His only real plus skill right now is shooting.
 
Derek said:
He fits well with Garland because he needs a PG to be successful. His only real plus skill right now is shooting.
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I don’t see the difference between Cade and the players who will be available at the 3rd pick as being so much greater that it’s worth sacrificing a young player and/or future 1st. It wouldn’t surprise me if the player picked 3rd ends up better than the player picked 1st. It’s just a really deep, strong draft. In fact, I wish we had another pick.
 
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sailfish said:
I don’t see the difference between and the players who will be available at the 3rd pick as being so much greater that it’s worth sacrificing a young player and/or future 1st. It wouldn’t surprise me if the player picked 3rd ends up better than the player picked 1st. It’s a really deep, strong draft. I wish we had another pick.
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You're talking to the wrong guy here. Cade is not my preferred pick and I would definitely not trade up to get him.
 
Derek said:
Cade isn’t a point forward. He fits well because he brings shooting, which we lack, but we would still be in need a PG to share the floor with Sexton when Garland sits.
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If Cade and Sexton can't collectively fill the point guard duties while sharing the floor, it's not a huge problem. If they do need a PG, it not like a super unique and extreme valuable PG is needed to make them work. We would need a defensive minded backup PG, if he is 6'3+ that would be an added plus. I think that can be found without using valuable assets and it shouldn't be expensive.

If we want to cover our bases and add flexibility to the roster, we could try to add Justise Winslow with the part or all of the MLE. That way we can get a wing that can play point forward but is versatile enough to fit into another role into the rotation if we have someone else that can handle the backup point duties.
 
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Wham with the Right Hand said:
Koby has a lot of big decisions to make over the next few weeks and beyond.

Extend Jarrett Allen before he becomes an RFA? Or wait and see what offer he gets and decide whether to match it?

Trade up for the #1 pick or stay at #3?

Who to take at #3 if they keep the pick?

Trade Sexton based on the belief that you can't win with two small, defensively challenged guards?

Buy out Love?

Extend Hartenstein?

Is Okoro a 2 or a 3?

Who to pursue as a backup point guard?

I think he's done well so far with what he's had to work with. His approach seems to have been to get the best players possible and worry about fit later. He was lucky that Jarrett Allen fell into his lap and unlucky with the ping pong balls the last two seasons before getting lucky this year.

His decisions on the questions posed above will go a long way to determining his legacy as a GM.
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I can think through a couple. Okoro is not a SF. And that's the spot that needs a huge upgrade.
 
inliner311 said:
If Cade and Sexton can't collectively fill the point guard duties while sharing the floor, it's not a huge problem. If they do need a PG, it not like a super unique and extreme valuable PG is needed to make them work. We would need a defensive minded backup PG, if he is 6'3+ that would be an added plus. I think that can be found without using valuable assets and it shouldn't be expensive.

If we want to cover our bases and add flexibility to the roster, we could try to add Justise Winslow with the part or all of the MLE. That way we can get a wing that can play point forward but is versatile enough to fit into another role into the rotation if we have someone else that can handle the backup point duties.
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Justise can be our new Delly. Winslow shot 38% 2 years ago and 35% this year along with an incredible 18% from 3. This team needs players who can shoot, not more guys who go uncovered 10 feet from the basket.
 
dms said:
Justise can be our new Delly. Winslow shot 38% 2 years ago and 35% this year along with an incredible 18% from 3. This team needs players who can shoot, not more guys who go uncovered 10 feet from the basket.
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I didn't realize his 3pt shooting dipped so hard this year. It was a smaller sample size but that is concerning. That might work in our favor though. We could get him on a cheaper contract that what I was expecting to pay him and hope his 3pt shooting gets back to 37-38%.

One thing Justise Winslow has said is he has worked hard to try to become a PG because he thinks that is his best position with his skills set. Maybe his stopped working on his 3pt shot.
 
Hate to say it but I have zero faith in Altman to build a winning team. He has drafted some nice pieces/parts in the lottery the past few years but has shown no ability at all to put those players in any type of position to succeed. At this point I'm just waiting for him to do something stupid such as trade Sexton for some late 2024 FRP or deal all our future picks to Detroit for #1.
 
daytripper said:
Hate to say it but I have zero faith in Altman to build a winning team. He has drafted some nice pieces/parts in the lottery the past few years but has shown no ability at all to put those players in any type of position to succeed. At this point I'm just waiting for him to do something stupid such as trade Sexton for some late 2024 FRP or deal all our future picks to Detroit for #1.
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I don't think it's going to end well for Koby. I think Gilbert won't approve any trade that is out there currently for Sexton. Koby will be left to move role players to try to piece this team together. It will become obvious we need someone better than JBB to get everything to work on the court. Koby gets axed because Gilbert knows you can't just give a GM an unlimited amount of chances to hire the right HC. If he didn't get it right the first 4 times, the 5th time probably won't be it.
 
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