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Did Koby Altman nail the rebuild?


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Koby has a lot of big decisions to make over the next few weeks and beyond.

Extend Jarrett Allen before he becomes an RFA? Or wait and see what offer he gets and decide whether to match it?

Trade up for the #1 pick or stay at #3?

Who to take at #3 if they keep the pick?

Trade Sexton based on the belief that you can't win with two small, defensively challenged guards?

Buy out Love?

Extend Hartenstein?

Is Okoro a 2 or a 3?

Who to pursue as a backup point guard?

I think he's done well so far with what he's had to work with. His approach seems to have been to get the best players possible and worry about fit later. He was lucky that Jarrett Allen fell into his lap and unlucky with the ping pong balls the last two seasons before getting lucky this year.

His decisions on the questions posed above will go a long way to determining his legacy as a GM.
Me? As long as they Don't trade up (or down) and Do stick Okoro at the 2 I'll take everything else in stride.
 
I hadn't thought much of the Hartenstein situation, but I do hope we can re-sign him on a reasonable deal. That was a great trade by Altman.
 
Seeing people question Allen’s “fit” is odd to me. He’s the type of center every team wants and can fit anywhere in my opinion.

How good he consistently is remains TBD, but there’s no team in the league that wouldn’t play a 7 footer who rolls hard, finishes lobs, blocks shots, and runs the floor. Not to mention he’s shown touch on the midrange J and is an 80% free throw shooter.

Allen’s absolute floor is being a valuable piece of the rotation on a contender. His ceiling is being an all star.

if his play made him cheaper down the stretch, you cash that coupon in as soon as possible.
 
Seeing people question Allen’s “fit” is odd to me. He’s the type of center every team wants and can fit anywhere in my opinion.

How good he consistently is remains TBD, but there’s no team in the league that wouldn’t play a 7 footer who rolls hard, finishes lobs, blocks shots, and runs the floor. Not to mention he’s shown touch on the midrange J and is an 80% free throw shooter.

Allen’s absolute floor is being a valuable piece of the rotation on a contender. His ceiling is being an all star.

if his play made him cheaper down the stretch, you cash that coupon in as soon as possible.

I think you are looking at Allen too much as a prospect and not a player with 4 years of NBA experience. It's not like he has made huge strides year to years. His numbers have gotten slightly better each year.

There aren't many players especially big men who just break out in years 5, 6, or 7. It more likely Allen is who he is with minor tweaks here and there to his game. The problem is if the game evolves away from traditional centers further than it has, can he make the necessary improvements to adjust. I think that's just a complete unknown for any big man who isn't already knocking down 3s.
 
Literally half the board for whatever reason.

If a move is made people don't like, must be Dan.

If a move is.made people like then it's Altmann.

Never understood this.
its because Dan's a meddler, and it's been reported on via Jason Lloyd. So because of that, he gets pinned for all bad decisions.
 
Seeing people question Allen’s “fit” is odd to me. He’s the type of center every team wants and can fit anywhere in my opinion.

How good he consistently is remains TBD, but there’s no team in the league that wouldn’t play a 7 footer who rolls hard, finishes lobs, blocks shots, and runs the floor. Not to mention he’s shown touch on the midrange J and is an 80% free throw shooter.

Allen’s absolute floor is being a valuable piece of the rotation on a contender. His ceiling is being an all star.

if his play made him cheaper down the stretch, you cash that coupon in as soon as possible.
Allen is probably who he is.. and thats a pretty good rim rolling finisher and shot blocker.
 
its because Dan's a meddler, and it's been reported on via Jason Lloyd. So because of that, he gets pinned for all bad decisions.

And that's fine.

It's just unreasonable to then think he's responsible for none of the good ones too.
 
BTW the Cavs are just actively tanking Sextons value by not being able to keep any of this quiet.

Real pro stuff from Altmann. Ready to deal one of his own lottery picks and he just leaks it the entire universe, I guess.
 
BTW the Cavs are just actively tanking Sextons value by not being able to keep any of this quiet.

Real pro stuff from Altmann. Ready to deal one of his own lottery picks and he just leaks it the entire universe, I guess.
I'd like to think it was someone else in the organization that leaked Altman's desire to gauge Sexton's value.

Even better, maybe it's just a smokescreen to try & land Green in the draft.
 
I think you are looking at Allen too much as a prospect and not a player with 4 years of NBA experience. It's not like he has made huge strides year to years. His numbers have gotten slightly better each year.

There aren't many players especially big men who just break out in years 5, 6, or 7. It more likely Allen is who he is with minor tweaks here and there to his game. The problem is if the game evolves away from traditional centers further than it has, can he make the necessary improvements to adjust. I think that's just a complete unknown for any big man who isn't already knocking down 3s.

Allen isn’t a traditional center.

The game moving away from traditional centers is not the same as the game ejecting tall people who can’t shoot 3s.
 
Allen isn’t a traditional center.

The game moving away from traditional centers is not the same as the game ejecting tall people who can’t shoot 3s.

Allen is very close to a traditional center. He might have a better ability to defend out on the perimeter than some big men but he isn't in the category of a switchable big.

The game won't eject centers who can't shoot 3's or guard out on the perimeter but they wont be as valued. If we miscalculate and the game moves further away from what Allen can and can't do, he won't be a movable piece but we will have to find some else to fill in minutes for him if we want to be competitive. He won't be useless but his minutes would decrease.
 
Koby can still fix this rebuild and keep this current team core together if he can trade from 3 to 1 and still keep Sexton and Allen. Draft Cunningham because he fits the current team build.

PG : Garland
SG : Sexton
SF : Cunningham
PF : Nance Jr (if he's not traded)
C : Allen

I'm sure this is what Koby wants.
 
Is Evan Dammarell the new Sam The Bullshit Whisperer? Seems to pop up with his ‘sources’ after random twitter leaks
 
Koby can still fix this rebuild and keep this current team core together if he can trade from 3 to 1 and still keep Sexton and Allen. Draft Cunningham because he fits the current team build.

PG : Garland
SG : Sexton
SF : Cunningham
PF : Nance Jr (if he's not traded)
C : Allen

I'm sure this is what Koby wants.

This most likely gives Koby the best chance of keeping his job long term. He doesn't need to take a massive jump if they draft Cunningham and basically keeps the core together. Also there is still alot of potential for the core to keep growing. He can tout that he drafted basically all of them.

Trading Sexton puts added pressure to win. If Koby gets that trade wrong he is done. If he trades Sexton because of the #3 pick, I'm not sure Gilbert will be happy about the step back that it most likely will happen.

Cade is probably ready enough to help us win now. Mobley I think it take a season or two for him to start making an impact. Green probably makes the most impact right now but if that's without Sexton on the roster, Im not sure it will equal wins.
 
This most likely gives Koby the best chance of keeping his job long term. He doesn't need to take a massive jump if they draft Cunningham and basically keeps the core together. Also there is still alot of potential for the core to keep growing. He can tout that he drafted basically all of them.

Trading Sexton puts added pressure to win. If Koby gets that trade wrong he is done. If he trades Sexton because of the #3 pick, I'm not sure Gilbert will be happy about the step back that it most likely will happen.

Cade is probably ready enough to help us win now. Mobley I think it take a season or two for him to start making an impact. Green probably makes the most impact right now but if that's without Sexton on the roster, Im not sure it will equal wins.
Yup i agree. The question is how will Koby pull this off without giving away too much.
 

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