2021-2022 Cavaliers General Discussion: Trade Deadline Edition

our team would work so much better if Sexton and Lauri were Bridges and Anunoby. We need proper wings and yes broken record.

Cavatt said:

Lauri can't be that slow and start. I also think they need to save Lauri Love lineups for special matchups. They got cooked

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Only got to watch some of the first half but Love did not look good at all. Not sure if this reclamation project is gonna do much to help the young guys develop at this point. Thinking Love should resign himself to the player coach role that Delly had last year, collect his check, and then accept a buyout next season.

Maybe his play gets better, just painful to watch the game of basketball and the Cavaliers go into the future while he tries to recreate the past.

The Cavs need to find an adequate wing ASAP. This will bump Markkanen down to just being a third big. Playing next to Mobley or Allen at all times should help cover up some of his defense/rebounding woes.

I honestly believe if we ever run a Love, Lauri , Cedi, Sexland line up we’ll allow 100 points in a quarter

Garland had an interesting stat line. He put up the most shots, and missed the most by far. 5/15 and 3/10. He ended with a plus/minus of 0, but he needs to be more efficient than this. 12 assists is very nice.
Sextons line was solid. 7/13, 2-6- but lacking in assists with 1. This the -14 +\-
Love stunk.

Cavatt said:

Lauri can't be that slow and start. I also think they need to save Lauri Love lineups for special matchups. They got cooked

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Yea we'll see how it looks going forward but I thought he was the big weak link on defense last night, especially early. His rotations were just too slow back to shooters.

Honestly the Cavs looked pretty good with Sexton and Garland on the floor at the same time last night.

I was ready for the team to clearly look better with Rubio, and for stretches it did, but he had a ROUGH stretch late in that game and they subbed him out and it was Garland and Sexton lineup that got the team to within 1, the closest they had been basically all night from the tip.

Rubio was also giving up uncontested backdoors the entire night.

Rich said:

Rubio was also giving up uncontested backdoors the entire night.

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That's what they call a "normal Saturday night" for @Lee.

cabs said:

our team would work so much better if Sexton and Lauri were Bridges and Anunoby. We need proper wings and yes broken record.

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Our team would be better if we had better players?

Now that's a take.

Rich said:

Honestly the Cavs looked pretty good with Sexton and Garland on the floor at the same time last night.

I was ready for the team to clearly look better with Rubio, and for stretches it did, but he had a ROUGH stretch late in that game and they subbed him out and it was Garland and Sexton lineup that got the team to within 1, the closest they had been basically all night from the tip.

Rubio was also giving up uncontested backdoors the entire night.

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Sexland played fine together last night. They started the game together and finished it. The problem was the 2nd quarter when it got away from them. Sexton and Garland were not on the court together at that time either.

Garland not being hot at the beginning really screwed the pouch. Even if he hit of those shots it would have made a big difference.

They really get torched on D when LM is out there with them though. That lineup can't work I don't think, unfortunately we just have no one that makes sense at 3 with that lineup. Okoro has no offensive game and that basically leaves Garland and Sexton doing everything on that side of the court.

Cedi looked pretty awful on defense too. But perhaps if he shot consistently it's better than LM...

Why can't Windler stay healthy?

The key to this game was the 21-2 run by the Grizzlies in just under four-and-a-half minutes of the second quarter. The score went from 38-35 Cavs to 56-40 Grizzlies. The Grizzlies had a 12-0 run in two minutes to kick it off. The Cavs kept making runs but could never catch up after that.

That was when we needed some veterans to settle things down and stop the bleeding, or somebody to hit a couple of shots to break the momentum. Garland missed three 3-point shots during that stretch, all within one minute. At the same time, De'Anthony Melton made three 3-point shots, all within one minute. Marky missed a 3-pointer, committed a turnover, and had two shots blocked.

The group on the floor was Mobley, Markkanen, Garland, Sexton, and Osman. Okoro came in for Cedi at 47-38 and Rubio for Sexton at 49-40. That might be a combination that JBB doesn't use again. Garland, Sexton, Markkanen, and Cedi on the floor together means not much defense. If those four are scoring, fine. But Sexton and Cedi never took a shot while Garland missed three 3's in three consecutive possessions and Marky missed three shots. I thought JBB waited too long to get Rubio back in.

Up until that 21-2 run the score was Cavs 38, Grizzlies 35. From the end of that run until halftime it was Cavs 21, Grizzlies 17. The second half score was Cavs 60, Grizzlies 59. That four-and-a-half minutes was the ballgame.

daytripper said:

Sexland played fine together last night. They started the game together and finished it. The problem was the 2nd quarter when it got away from them. Sexton and Garland were not on the court together at that time either.

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Yeah, I assumed we'd be the worst defensively with those two on the floor together but that wasn't necessarily the case.

The sample size is just one game, but that starting lineup that I for one was not too sure about (Garland/Sexton/Markkanen/Mobley/Allen) played for ten minutes together and had a ORtg/DRtg/NetRtg of 121.7/91.7/+30.1.

Curiously, the next most used lineup was Rubio/Sexton/Osman/Love/Mobley who played for seven minutes together and put up a
ORtg/DRtg/NetRtg of 100.0/133.3/-33.3. Just on paper that looks like an awful lineup -- hopefully JBB puts that one in the trash.

BTW, the Garland/Okoro/Markkanen/Mobley/Allen lineup that a bunch of us had been championing also got seven minutes together and held up fine with 106.7/105.9/+0.8. No other lineup got more than three minutes together.

Mobley at the 5 against Adams was tough. He's not strong enough to stop the Adams offensive rebounds just yet and when you have the current version of Love... Oh boy. A guy who was known to get 20-20 games had 3 boards last night.

kookoo said:

Mobley at the 5 against Adams was tough. He's not strong enough to stop the Adams offensive rebounds just yet and when you have the current version of Love... Oh boy. A guy who was known to get 20-20 games had 3 boards last night.

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Yeah he shouldn't be in that situation yet.

Love should better be able to take advantage of that. Kyle Anderson destroyed Love and he is the guy who should be slow enough for Love to handle.

I thought Love and Lauri both looked great in the past couple preseason games and they folded like toilet paper in this one.

You kind of can't play SexLand w/the four big guys. Too much penetration w/a lack of recovery and/or open rebounding opportunity for the offense because your bigs are scrambling to help too much (and I get that Ja is phenomenal, but the NBA is full of G's and F's who can get by you). Rubio and Okoro both helped with stopping some penetration. It's compounded if Laurie isn't also hitting 3's on the other end too.
I thought we could have gone a little more offense/defense in substitutions late.
Cedi is on one of those weird Cedi things where he looks almost competent before he reminds you he's Cedi Osman.
70 points in first half is ominous. And 60 in the 2nd half isn't all that better. The plus side is we were able to score some ourselves.
As is the Cavs MO: Mobley got the most minutes. Personally I think you should balance his minutes out w/the vets some.. but I get it, both Markk and Love looked like they weren't going to give you as much as Evan was.