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What Resolves First?

  • Collin Sexton's Restricted Free Agency

    Votes: 19 38.8%

  • Baker Mayfield's Tenure with the Browns

    Votes: 30 61.2%
  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
@Derek hit it on the head. Gobert is an elite rim protector and if you surround him with average perimeter defenders, you've got a top 10 defense. We saw that a few years ago when Utah had Crowder and Royce out there.

Last few years, they have had absolute trash. Mitchell can't defend anyone despite his great physical profile. Conely has lost a lot of steps. Jingles, Bogdanovic, and Clarkson have never been good on defense. Royce O'neal is fine but he can't defend everyone. Danuel House, a player who is probably worse on D than Okoro, was a critical defensive lynchpin for them last year. Gobert might have actually been their best perimeter defender. You ended up with a scenario where Gobert has to make sure he switches, defends the secondary pass, defends the rim, and defends the perimeter. No single player is capable of all that. Just an absolute no win scenario for him, especially with guys like Shaq clowning him without appreciating what his positives were.

Anyway, Utah rant over but Sexton/Mitchell would be a hilariously bad pairing and basically be an open lane to the rim at all times.
 
foucault87 said:
@Derek hit it on the head. Gobert is an elite rim protector and if you surround him with average perimeter defenders, you've got a top 10 defense. We saw that a few years ago when Utah had Crowder and Royce out there.

Last few years, they have had absolute trash. Mitchell can't defend anyone despite his great physical profile. Conely has lost a lot of steps. Jingles, Bogdanovic, and Clarkson have never been good on defense. Royce O'neal is fine but he can't defend everyone. Danuel House, a player who is probably worse on D than Okoro, was a critical defensive lynchpin for them last year. Gobert might have actually been their best perimeter defender. You ended up with a scenario where Gobert has to make sure he switches, defends the secondary pass, defends the rim, and defends the perimeter. No single player is capable of all that. Just an absolute no win scenario for him, especially with guys like Shaq clowning him without appreciating what his positives were.

Anyway, Utah rant over but Sexton/Mitchell would be a hilariously bad pairing and basically be an open lane to the rim at all times.
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3/40 seems like a fair deal for Collin. But if I’m him i don’t sign that. I wouldn’t sign a multi year deal after an ACL injury.
 
Fine sign for 2/28 or something. Get your money over the QO and prove yourself to go on the free agent market again. He’s young he can hit free agency in his prime
 
Kizzle said:
3/40 seems like a fair deal for Collin. But if I’m him i don’t sign that. I wouldn’t sign a multi year deal after an ACL injury.
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That approach did not work out well for Dipo.
 
Kizzle said:
3/40 seems like a fair deal for Collin. But if I’m him i don’t sign that. I wouldn’t sign a multi year deal after an ACL injury.
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I wouldn't either. But Sexton didn't have an ACL injury.
 
gambler said:
one thing i have not seen mentioned RE sexton is that he was playing for the worst offensive team in the 2020 season.....myb add another assist or more to his 4.4 total.....what if he was a 24/6?
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The thing about Sexton, during each of his seasons, is that hes neverva part of the most productive/efficient lineups and almost always part of the least productive/efficient lineups. No matter the roster, hes one of the reasons they dont win; regardless of *his* production/efficiency, the lineups are bad when hes on the floor.
 
gambler said:
one thing i have not seen mentioned RE sexton is that he was playing for the worst offensive team in the 2020 season.....myb add another assist or more to his 4.4 total.....what if he was a 24/6?
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We were the worst offensive team, in part, because Sexton was being given PG duties, and he was so bad at it.

He’s ok as a secondary creator though. Could be a good cog in our offense for sure.
 
I have said this all along! I want to keep Sexton. I think he is a perfect fit for our bench group….a fantastic scoring punch off the bench. However he wants to get paid starter money. That ain’t happening (and shouldn’t).
 
Derek said:
We were the worst offensive team, in part, because Sexton was being given PG duties, and he was so bad at it.

He’s ok as a secondary creator though. Could be a good cog in our offense for sure.
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Lou Williams started 122 games in his career, all for teams with losing records. His first taste of playing on a winning team was his move to 6th man in Toronto.

You can't just say, "Well with better players a point guard will have one more assist a game." There's a good chance that the player controlling the offense with a high usage rating is a big part of why the offense doesn't work.
 
gambler said:
one thing i have not seen mentioned RE sexton is that he was playing for the worst offensive team in the 2020 season.....myb add another assist or more to his 4.4 total.....what if he was a 24/6?
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Sexton was the main reason the offense was so bad. Any coach other than Beilein would have shut down the Sexton/TT buddy ball routine after a couple of quarters. Beilein allowed it to go on until he was shown the door after half a season of the Cavs getting run out of gym. It barely resembled a professional offense.
 
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