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2011 NBA Mock Draft Thread

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Watching a ton of college basketball, I want to share my opinion on the top prospects in this class.

First off, I'm having a hard time buying into the hype surrounding Perry Jones. He has been a huge disappointment at Baylor thus far, but yet somehow has risen to #1 in most mock drafts? People like to compare him to Kevin Durant because they both have the same long and tall build and play on the wing. But Durant absolutely tore it up at Texas and has continued to develop into the player he is today. Plain and simple, he wreaked havoc. Jones, on the other hand, has not. I've read things online about Jones that say maybe, "His numbers may not be too impressive, but you can't watch Jones play and not be impressed." I agree with this statement at times. He makes some incredible plays, but the problem is that he doesn't make them often enough. The majority of the time he seems to be just standing around. It reminds me of DeAndre Jordan a couple of years ago, or as some referred to him, "The Next Dwight". In college, he had his moments where he would have an unbelievable dunk over someone. Around this point three years ago, some mock drafts had him going as high as 6th overall. Ended up falling way down to 35th.

It's not all bad though with Jones. Unlike Jordan, Perry has more of a plus side than just the dunking and athleticism. He's a very good ball handler and has an ability to score the basketball. I know the odds are slim to none for Perry to return to Baylor for an extra year if he is still projected as a top 3 pick, but that would be very beneficial towards him in the long run. He would be able to take a much larger role on the team without LaceDarius Dunn and could further develop his game. If he starts to slip like Jordan did, absolutely he could be a great pickup in the later portion of the lottery. High risk, high reward type guy.

The other big disappointment thus far has been Harrison Barnes. He was projected as the top pick for this draft the last couple of years, but has lost that position with his subpar play this season. However, I still do have faith in Barnes. At North Carolina, it's almost like he was put in a position where they needed him to come in and be a superstar from day one. Barnes could not live up to the early expectations.

Still, he has been starting to look a little better as of late and I think he could break out in the second half of this season. A dominant athlete and a very good offensive player who could develop into a great one. He appears to have the attitude and work ethic necessary for him to polish up his game. One area of his game Barnes needs to improve upon is his rebounding. A 6’8” athletic forward should be able to grab more the 5.6 boards per game.

Kyrie Irving is the one player in this class that I can only say positive things about. He really excites me on the court, just thinking that the Cavs could get an elite point guard, the perfect piece to start this rebuilding process. Give him the ball and he knows what to do with it. He has such a smooth game and the transition from high school to college did not have any obvious affect on him. A toe injury set back his season a little bit (maybe even ended his season), but I don’t think it’s anything to be too worried about.

Jared Sullinger has been especially impressive this season. Came to Ohio State and instantly showed that he can not only compete at the college level, but be a star. He will be right up there with Kemba Walker at the end of the season in Player of the Year talks. He’s talented in the post, and has received comparisons to Kevin Love, Al Jefferson, Tyler Hansbrough, and Sean May. Let’s hope if the Cavs take him, he will turn out more like the first two than the last two. His height (6’8”) and athleticism are the two things the worry scouts the most about Sully.

If Irving is off the board, Terrence Jones seems to be a relatively safe pick. He’s another guy who’s game has not skipped a beat against D-1 players. He may not have quite the potential as Irving, Barnes, or even (Perry) Jones, but he is a guy that should be able to compete at the NBA level pretty quickly. Terrence Jones is very versatile, can score in a ton of ways, and is a one-man highlight reel. When he goes up for a dunk, he will throw it down with authority. Also is a particularly good rebounder.

Two other guys who really intrigue me with our first round pick are Enes Kanter and Donatas Motiejunas. Both are international big men who I have not seen play as much as some of the other guys in this class. I would really like to see the NCAA approve Kentucky’s appeal for Enes Kanter to play to watch him work against some D-1 big men, but both of these guys are very talented and have a lot of potential. Enes really excites me a lot with his dominance offensively, high energy style of play, and rebounding ability.

I follow NBADraft.net pretty consistently and have seen a constant drop for Brandon Knight. If he falls into the teens, I’d love to trade for an extra pick and draft him. He’s a baller with a terrific scoring ability and plays intense defensively. Kemba Walker is another guy worth looking at with a pick in the same range.

Here is my top 5:

1. Kyrie Irving (far and away)
2. Enes Kanter
3. Terrence Jones
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Jared Sullinger

(Just outside: Donatas Motiejunas, Derrick Williams, Perry Jones)
 
Hasn't there been many players who have torn their ACL and made a full recovery?

I'm not saying he won't make a full recovery, I'm just saying how many players have had a serious knee injury in high school and gone on to become superstars? It's not that I don't think he'll be any good, but a superstar? That one I'm not so sure about.
 
I haven't watched Perry Jones all too much but from what I saw and read I don't think Baylor is playing him correctly. I think too many people think Jones is a PF when he is more of a SF perimeter player. I've heard he has great ball handling skills and is a nice shooter so far. I think people get confused with Jones' position because he has strength and he is 6'11 so automatically people think he is a PF/C but that's not the case at all. Like I said I haven't watched Baylor play a lot but I heard they have a lot of ball hogs and none of them like to pass.
 
Kevin Durant was put into a position to succeed from day 1. Hell, Rick Barnes came out and said before the season that he would be happier for Durant to get the #1 pick and turn into a superstar rather than win the national title.

Perry Jones, on the other hand, has played out of position and forced to defer to the vets on the team.
 
Perry Jones scares me. He might be like Blake Griffin who took a year to get going but nowadays with college talent diluted it's almost expected that future NBA stars will start performing right away.
 
Perry Jones WASN"T even dominant in high school. Averaged about 17 and 9. His team finished 20-13 I believe, ranked 32 in the state of Texas, and he had countless problems with his coaches and teamates, saying (paraphrasing) "They didn't use my talents correctly". Coach Scott Drew is a good coach, and I trust his insinct over some scout in Hawaii, as Scott Drew obviously knows Perry a lot better. A lot of players play out of posistion in college and succeed. Perry Jones, wasn't dominant in high school, not dominant in college, but will be dominant in the pro's... hard to believe. Maybe by some freak coincidence everywhere he's been has been the wrong place, or maybe the problem is with him. Either way he should suck it up, no matter how any coach is playing hm or how the other players are playing around him and start dominating in college. Until that happens, in my opinion he's all hype and not worthy of any top pick.
 
This is a pretty good assessment of Perry Jones from a poster on a Baylor fans forum. http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205056&page=2
"Hambone, if he goes No. 1 it will say more about the lack of quality in the class of '11 than about the current level of Jones' talent. I have followed his career with interest, and I have a real appreciation for what he might grow into with maturity...and I say, might, because I have seen other talented players who somehow never quite seemed to realize a fullness of it, and I am sure that you have as well.

My comment was that he is not an amazing talent...To qualify as amazing he would have to put up numbers consistently and against the pressure that teams would bring in order to prevent it. He did not even do that in high school, and he will not do it this year at Baylor. He will have his moments, some of them very good ones, and at other times he will struggle. The fact that for his size he has a nice set of skills makes him seem to be better than at this point he has ever shown himself to be. I am thrilled that he is at Baylor, but my expectations for him in his first year were not as high as most posters on this board.

You know as well as anyone that the NBA loves potential in young players, and they have made some huge misjudgments because of their tendency to draft players who seem to possess great "upside." I think that Perry Jones will be worth a gamble, and I think that he merits a high draft choice, but at the moment he does not have the highly specialized skills, nor for that matter a single skill, that I consider amazing for a player his size and with his coordination.

He seems to be pretty good at several things, but he does not rebound ferociously, and did not do so in several games I saw him play in high school against less physically gifted players; he has an occasional spectacular block, but is not a gifted shot blocker, at least in terms of consistency, at this point. He handles the ball very well for his youth and his size, but I am not at all sure that I would want him with the ball in his hands in critical game situations right now based upon what I have seen in practice or in games. As for his shot, he is above average, but has no back to the basket game, no effective go-to shot that I can see, no consistent moves to the basket where he finishes in an impressive fashion, and seems to be reluctant to seize the moment or create his shot at this stage.

His defense is problematical and is not enhanced by playing in a zone where fundamental skills that are so important in a man for man defense are not always in evidence. Who can he guard at the professional level? He does not at this point have a well defined position and is not spending his first and perhaps his only year of college concentrating on the skills that would apply to the position for which he would most likely be drafted.

His statistics against relatively weak competition tell the story, and I am not one who thinks that statistics tell the entire story for every player. But he has done nothing that convinces me that he is an amazing talent at this point, just a very promising one that would be well served to stay in college for at least another year, though he will probably not do so.

I can say with a certainty born of watching over fifty years of NBA basketball, some of it up close and personal, that he is far from ready to play at that level in the near future. That he has the intelligence and the physical qualities to do so is beyond question -- for me the question is whether he has the temperament for it, and at the moment I believe that he needs both more personal maturity and more development of the specialized skills that spell the difference between someone who makes a good living as a second tier player in the League, or someone who advances year to year in his capabilities as a starter and contributor."
 
Perry Jones reminds me of Marvin Williams. Athletic, good shooter, decent ball handler, but incredibly passive. He'll go high because of his talents and athleticism, but will never take over games or become more than a very good 3rd-4th option.
 
Marvin williams is now the official bogey man of the lottery, i swear it used to be sam bowie
 
Enes Kanter ruled permanently ineligible

Associated Press

LEXINGTON, Ky. -- Kentucky's pursuit of an NCAA title won't include freshman center Enes Kanter.

The NCAA Student-Athlete Reinstatement Committee upheld Friday an earlier NCAA decision that deemed Kanter permanently ineligible for receiving more than $33,000 in impermissible benefits while playing for the Turkish club team Fenerbahce two years ago.

Calipari has maintained from the beginning that Kanter is an amateur in his eyes. He says his job now is to prepare the Kanter for the NBA draft. The 6-foot-11 center is projected as a top-10 draft pick.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6000134

Kanter is probably my favorite prospect in the upcoming draft. Assuming he goes through his pre-draft workouts without a hitch and there are no other major deterrents I'd even go as far to say I wouldn't mind taking him #1.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6000134

Kanter is probably my favorite prospect in the upcoming draft. Assuming he goes through his pre-draft workouts without a hitch and there are no other major deterrents I'd even go as far to say I wouldn't mind taking him #1.

If he's really 6'11 then he has a real chance to be a star as he has been dominant in international All-star competitions. He's not a super explosive athlete like Dwight Howard though so my one concern would be if he measures short in the pre-draft workouts
 
I think he will be the guy who suprises everyone at the pre draft measure combine. I feel hes quicker than he looks and a legit 6'11
 
I don't know, but can't Kanter at least go play for some team instead of not playing at all? I'm sure some crappy Japanese team or even a league overseas on a team that sucks right now and is looking for anybody would pick him up. At least then there would be some more in-game footage of him available. He is very interesting, but I gotta see more of him than just the Nike Hoop Summit.
 
Enes Kanter

Here is the best clip of the Nike Hoop Summit I could find. I do know one thng for sure, a Varejao/Kanter frontcourt would never get outhustled by an opposing team.


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He would also make for some great post game interviews.


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