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2016-2017 Indians Off-Season Thread

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sportscoach said:
We have a 2-3 year window to win it all with this roster before we start losing some of our core pieces. We would have a lineup of Santana, Kipnis, Lindor, Encarnacion, Brantley, Ramirez, Chisenhall/Guyer, Gomes/Perez, Naquin/Almonte, that first 6 of the lineup would be very very hard to get through. Santana in 86 games as a leadoff guy has an obp of .385 since he drew more walks. He is the guy who sets the tone for the club, by taking pitches. Kipnis is a solid player in general, Lindor hit .300 and if you put Encarncion behind him, teams will pitch to him. Even if Encarncion only hit 35 HR next season with those three guys infront of him we are guaranteed 90+ RBIs from him. Teams then would have to walk Encarnion then have to deal with Brantley or Ramirez in RBI situations which career wise both have been very good at. Now the 7-8-9 do not have to produce to win, so there is less pressure on them. Signing Encarnacion and putting him in the middle of the lineup makes this the team to beat in baseball. With a healthy pitching staff and the young depth having actual experience now, we would be the team to beat. We don't have anyone to extend at the first base DH position right now. Diaz to be is a kid who can flat out hit, but he doesnt bring in the power. He is more of a two hole guy who just hits for average and gets on base. This is why the signing of an Encarnion makes sense. The team will extend Lindor in due time and the FO knows it has too. Salazar and Bauer may get an extension as well in 2018 to keep them a few more seasons. We are in a win now mode, and we have to make a move to get a bat like him to do it I feel and if you put his career average numbers in this lineup, we have to best odds of winning the world series of any team
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You gotta start structuring your posts so they are a little easier to read man.
 
sportscoach said:
Signing Encarnacion and putting him in the middle of the lineup makes this the team to beat in baseball. With a healthy pitching staff and the young depth having actual experience now, we would be the team to beat.
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I wrote this earlier in the thread and got no responses, so I'm re-posting it in the hope to get an opinion or two:

It seems like every news outlet and sportswriter has already anointed Boston as the AL darling but an EE signing would have to make us the prohibitive favorite, right?

I mean I guess no matter what we're destined to remain under-the-radar compared to the sexy big market teams but we bulldozed this year's postseason with half a team and ZERO production from our power slugger.

Just don't see how the Red Sox with Sale (and minus Papi, which everybody seems to forget) are a stronger, more well-balanced team than a fully-healthy Tribe w/EE.

So how do we stack up against the Sox after their monster move, and would EE make us a perceived favorite against them?
 
JMoneyYourHoney said:
I wrote this earlier in the thread and got no responses, so I'm re-posting it in the hope to get an opinion or two:

It seems like every news outlet and sportswriter has already anointed Boston as the AL darling but an EE signing would have to make us the prohibitive favorite, right?

I mean I guess no matter what we're destined to remain under-the-radar compared to the sexy big market teams but we bulldozed this year's postseason with half a team and ZERO production from our power slugger.

Just don't see how the Red Sox with Sale (and minus Papi, which everybody seems to forget) are a stronger, more well-balanced team than a fully-healthy Tribe w/EE.

So how do we stack up against the Sox after their monster move, and would EE make us a perceived favorite against them?
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Boston was Vegas's favorite to start the offseason, and getting Sale made them even more the favorite to win it. Us getting an Encarnacion will even the odds a bit more but Boston will still be favored

Now when it comes to comparison of roster, the MLB console games would favor the Indians roster when it comes to overall ratings of the starting pitchers, but overall Sale, Price and Porcello, would be "Better" than Kluber, Carrasco, Salazar. Id say we have more reliable 4/5 Starters than Boston does at the moment. Right now no favorites on either side, but Price and Porcello have bad post season stats.

Now when it comes to bullpen, I would lean slightly towards the Indians overall especially is a guy like Otero repeats last season. So late games will go to the Indians if the are ahead.

When it comes to lineup, you add in Encarnion we would have the advantage, but right now they are favored by paper with a better lineup.

So overall judgement, Boston is favored cause of a better lineup on paper currently and by paper would be better with Encarncion, but Boston has a slight bias towards them, hence why they are the vegas's favorite.
 
Chris said:
Boston will be "favored" because their jerseys say Red Sox. That's pretty much it.
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Yeah...guessing the projection services will have the Indians winning the AL, like they did last season as well.
 
According to a guy who covers the O's for MASN:

O's are only focused on Trumbo and a potential Alvarez return for corner power bats right now. Have their attention elsewhere right now as well, trying to sign a C and improve their OF.

He also says they have never shown interest in Chris Carter, which is a surprise to hear.





But it sure looks like Baltimore is going in a different direction from Encarnacion.
 
BimboColesHair said:
According to a guy who covers the O's for MASN:

O's are only focused on Trumbo and a potential Alvarez return for corner power bats right now. Have their attention elsewhere right now as well, trying to sign a C and improve their OF.

He also says they have never shown interest in Chris Carter, which is a surprise to hear.





But it sure looks like Baltimore is going in a different direction from Encarnacion.
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So now EE's options are the Cleveland Indians or richmond flying squirrels

Nice
 
Simon said:


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The Indians pretty much will decide the Price of Napoli vs Encarnacion. On paper Encarnacion is better, but Napoli is well liked in Cleveland to retaining him wouldn't be bad in that sense. I'd honestly say we need one of those two guys in Cleveland whether the FO likes it or not.

The Indians have been rumored with a bunch of veteran left handed relief pitchers. I know we will bring in a few veteran pitchers on minor league deals, just not sure if we will bring in one on a major league deal.

We did get Milner in the Rule 5 so he is slated to have that last spot in the bullpen right now and releasing Manship creates another spot for guys like Adams, Armstrong to get into our bullpen,, so we may try and get a righty, but then why did we release Manship when even good FA reliever will cost more than he did. I feel they are gonna have Clevinger be in the minors to start the season and keep him in as a starter for now.
 
We all knew they were going to bring the corpse of Mike Napoli back. Looking forward to seeing him turn into a pumpkin again next postseason when we desperately need him.
 
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