2019 Cleveland Browns Regular Season

[Triple-S]

We are also franchises who have been at dramatically different places.

Lamar went in to a situation he could win right away. Competent coach, established front office, quality talent around him, a defense to lean on.

Baker went in to a situation where, quite frankly, it’s a miracle he won very quickly. Hue was a clown show, the previous regime stocked picks but not players, we were trying to thread a rebuild on the fly.....it’s remarkable it worked as well as it did once Mayfield got his bearings.

I’m not a Lamar hater. If you go back and look at draft discussions, I had lots of good things to say about him. I thought he could be a QB at the NFL level. I just want to see how his offseason work translates once game script gets away from them. They played two bad teams, they played from ahead for every second. I expect a competent player to look good in those situations. Let’s see how his habits stick when he starts to face pressure or coverage he hasn’t seen....that’s where it will show up if this first two weeks is just racking up stats against some supremely bad teams or a catapult forward, that will sustain against negative game scripts and better competition.

it's very much this.

both franchises got what they needed.

Frankly? (and dear god do not take this as an insult) Lamar reminds me of when I saw Vick with the Falcons. An incredible player that I enjoyed watching. One that I think could have been even BETTER on a franchise that knew what the hell it was doing with him.

The Browns also...got what they needed.

It's just stupid to go "WELL YOU MESSED UP" to either franchise. Both are very much "winners" right now in that regard.

One is just going to take a bit longer to get chemistry going.

 

[DirtyDan]

Situation to watch

 

[I'mWithDan]

Situation to watch

If Adams demanded a trade and hit the market, it would be an absolute frenzy to get him. I’d be really curious what a defensive player of his age / caliber / contract would fetch.

 

[Sebastian]

Do you think these moronic straw man arguments make your claim that Jackson is a running back sound any more intelligent?

I hope not.

If this is all you’re going to provide, I suggest you drop it.

Quickly.

 

[DirtyDan]

If Adams demanded a trade and hit the market, it would be an absolute frenzy to get him. I’d be really curious what a defensive player of his age / caliber / contract would fetch.

No good organization lets a guy like that hit the market, but since it's the Jets...

Basically tanking this year
Williams and Gase are dicks, borderline lunatics
Locker room gonna be toxic
Gase more than likely wants to move on from last regime's guys

Plus players are more likely to force their way out of dysfunctional teams than ever before.

 

[JDailey23]

Is anyone else sick and tired of these babies crying and demanding/asking to be traded 2 GD weeks into the season. Do these guys think they are the same type of bozos as the NBA???
Don’t let this happen NFL. Don’t let those losers ruin the league like the NBA.

 

[red.]

Browns coach Freddie Kitchens said he needs to get the ball out of Baker Mayfield's hands quicker because Mayfield is taking "too many hits."
Kitchens is taking the blame here and sounds like he'll change the offensive gameplan to scheme around his below-average offensive line, but Mayfield also needs to work on feeling and avoiding pressure. The change in gameplan is likely opting for more quick-hitting passes, especially when facing defensive lines that can get after the quarterback. Next week, Mayfield will go up against Aaron Donald and the Rams, so now is the time for a change. Mayfield has the fifth-highest sack percentage through two weeks.

 

[WellYouNeednt]

Situation to watch

God, I hate Pop Culture — is this not incredibly passive aggressive?

Since League Started - early 2000’s: Player verbally communicates dissatisfaction with direction of franchise and role.

2019: ***Unfollows team on instagram***

 

[The Oi]

God, I hate Pop Culture — is this not incredibly passive aggressive?

Since League Started - early 2000’s: Player verbally communicates dissatisfaction with direction of franchise and role.

2019: ***Unfollows team on instagram***

He got people talkin ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[AZ_]

Is anyone else sick and tired of these babies crying and demanding/asking to be traded 2 GD weeks into the season. Do these guys think they are the same type of bozos as the NBA???
Don’t let this happen NFL. Don’t let those losers ruin the league like the NBA.

(woof) (woof)

And no, if teams are going to tank, players have the right to demand a trade and improve their situation.

Hearing hypocritical talking head like Steve Young cry foul and make charged accusations about the NBA isn't really doing it for me.

 

[NorthCoastBias]

 

[red.]

Baker Mayfield QB-CLE
9/18, 7:54 am

• Mayfield is averaging 3.07 seconds to throw, the third highest in the NFL, per NFL Next Gen Stats.
  Analysis: He was atop that list in Week 2 when he averaged 3.35 seconds, and the results are indicative of a need to get rid of the ball quicker. Per Jake Trotter of ESPN.com, when Mayfield throws within 2.5 seconds, he's completed 74 percent of his throws with two touchdowns and one interception; when he throws in over 2.5 seconds, the completion rate drops to 55 percent with zero touchdowns and three picks. Having the ball in Mayfield's hands can be a good thing, but the added time he's taking has also resulted in eight sacks through two games, third in the NFL. "We need to get the ball out of his hands quicker. He is taking too many hits," head coach Freddie Kitchens told Scott Patsko of the Cleveland Plain Dealer on Tuesday. "I do not like my quarterback to take hits. I need to get the ball out of his hands quicker."

 

[I'mWithDan]

Is anyone else sick and tired of these babies crying and demanding/asking to be traded 2 GD weeks into the season. Do these guys think they are the same type of bozos as the NBA???
Don’t let this happen NFL. Don’t let those losers ruin the league like the NBA.

I'm way more sympathetic to NFL players.....who have shorter careers and make exponentially greater physical sacrifices to play. NFL players risk their livelihood on every play. NBA players have fully guaranteed contracts and a much longer career runway. If they burn out of the NBA, many can go make millions playing overseas.

The Jets are a dumpster fire. Adams is a great player. Who knows how long his career will be. If he wants to go elsewhere, because the franchise is inept, more power to him.

 

[Huber.]

(woof) (woof)

And no, if teams are going to tank, players have the right to demand a trade and improve their situation.

Hearing hypocritical talking head like Steve Young cry foul and make charged accusations about the NBA isn't really doing it for me.

The Jets aren't tanking. Even if they were unfollowing them on social media about the most childish way a player can go about "improving their situation".

 

[NorthCoastBias]

Football Outsiders released their updated DVOA ratings through Week 2. Browns ranks:

Total DVOA: 17th
Offensive DVOA: 27th
Defensive DVOA: 10th
Special Teams DVOA: 2nd

Rest of the AFC North:
Baltimore (2nd overall, 3rd in offense, 9th in defense, 1st in ST)
Pittsburgh (30th, 25th, 29th, 19th)
Cincinnati (31st, 29th, 30th, 23rd)