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2019 NFL Draft: Day 2 Discussion

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All depending on if he views and graded all these players similarly... which is.... extraordinarily unlikely.

If he wants one bad he has to go get them.

Very true. We don't know how Dorsey has them ranked. He might very well have or or 2 of them ranked much high than the rest. If one of those guys falls, I like to think the Browns have a decent chance at trading up a couple notches with their own 5 pick. The problem is that I'm having a hard time identifying at team with picks 33-48 that would be eager to trade down for #49 and #155. Many of the teams already have extra multiple late round picks.

Maybe Oakland would trade #35 for Duke + a future pick?
 
Very true. We don't know how Dorsey has them ranked. He might very well have or or 2 of them ranked much high than the rest. If one of those guys falls, I like to think the Browns have a decent chance at trading up a couple notches with their own 5 pick. The problem is that I'm having a hard time identifying at team with picks 33-48 that would be eager to trade down for #49 and #155. Many of the teams already have extra multiple late round picks.

Maybe Oakland would trade #35 for Duke + a future pick?

There’s a pretty good argument to be made for a tackle. We just hired a new OC and he isn’t going to be running as many bunch formations w 2 backs and 6 OL this year, if history is a guide. To keep Baker clean, and to allow him to go through his reads in those 4+ WR sets, I think we will almost certainly will see an OT.

I would also think we stay put in the 2nd if we don’t draft a tackle. I say this because I don’t think we know who sucks on defense yet since Greggggggggg was doing some funky things the few years.

Still hoping we trade as many possible late picks for 2nd rounders. And this is why I am not a GM:chuckle:
 
Prediction

Browns will draft someone(s) tonight with football experience.
 
I was amazed when Indianapolis traded back out of the first round to pick up a 2020 pick. Their scouts are on par with the Browns staff, and I mean that as the most sincere compliment. Both Chris Ballard and John Dorsey are targeting the 2nd round as the gold mine in this draft. That bears mentioning.
 
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I know this is pertinent to day 1, but it’s important to know what happened yesterday.
 
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I was amazed when Indianapolis traded back out of the first round to pick up a 2020 pick. Their scouts are on par with the Browns staff, and I mean that as the most sincere compliment. Both Chris Ballard and John Dorsey are targeting the 2nd round as the gold mine in this draft. That bears mentioning.
I know people say this class is deep but weak in defensive backs, but, the utter lack of DB drafting in the first round also bears mentioning.

My guess is Ballard and Dorsey both realized they could get a secondary player or offensive linemen that would be (nearly) as good as whoever they would draft in the first, and as a result, had a net gain in draft picks.

This draft, on the whole, is quite deep. Dorsey and Ballard are using that to their advantage.
 
I was amazed when Indianapolis traded back out of the first round to pick up a 2020 pick. Their scouts are on par with the Browns staff, and I mean that as the most sincere compliment. Both Chris Ballard and John Dorsey are targeting the 2nd round as the gold mine in this draft. That bears mentioning.

Had Indy in the mock draft and researching the roster I was amazed at how strong that team is. Ballard is a very good GM. The Colts now have three second round picks this year and two next year. Plus they still have a ton of cap space. I wouldn't rule out a deal for a veteran DB this evening.
 
Do you guys see the Browns going into next season with three 5th round and 1 6th/7th round picks on the roster or will they be able to combine a combination of those to trade up today/early Saturday?
 
There will probably be a run on DB's but that's where the talent is. 10 of the next 25 picks will probably be defensive backs. That's enough talent where the browns can wait to see who falls.

If Dorsey trades up, my 10 minutes of analysis tells me it seem unlikely that he trade up higher than 43.

This mock draft is like a worst case scenario where the browns might want to move up, but even here the Browns get Juan Thornhill if they just wait.

33 Jawaan Taylor - OT
34 Deebo Samuel - WR
35 Byron Murphy - CB
36 D.K. Metcalf - WR
37 Lonnie Johnson - CB
38 Irv Smith Jr. - TE
39 Rock Ya-Sin - CB
40 Greedy Williams - CB

41 Drew Lock - QB
42 Chase Winovich - Edge
43 Justin Layne - CB
44 A.J. Brown - WR
45 Erik McCoy - C
46 Trysten Hill - DT
47 Greg Little - OT
48 Joejuan Williams - CB
49 Juan Thornhill - S

50 Cody Ford - OL
51 Parris Campbell - WR
52 Elgton Jenkins - C
53 Chauncey Gardner-Johnson - S
54 Dalton Risner - OL
55 Sean Bunting - CB
Chiefs have to move up. We need a DB and WR bad right now. Those are all the names I've seen linked to who we should get.

Good players will likely fall to where we are, so I understand if we don't move up. We just won't get choice picks.
 
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The New York Giants got a hell of a team.
 
A little nugget is that the Browns like Mack Wilson quite a bit.

Don't know if this translates into drafting him (who knows) but they are high on him.
 
Do you guys see the Browns going into next season with three 5th round and 1 6th/7th round picks on the roster or will they be able to combine a combination of those to trade up today/early Saturday?

I think they'll move up and have fewer total picks, but even if they don't, it doesn't mean that all five picks taken in rounds 5-7 would actually make the roster. Last year, we drafted Simeon Thomas in the 6th, and cut him before the first game.
 

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