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Amazing news for college football (especially SEC/ACC/Big 12)....mass production of saliva based Corona tests that come back in a matter of hours.

Credit to NBA for funding the development of test. This basically ensures the SEC/ACC/Big 12 will move forward with seasons since they can now consistently monitor the health of players and isolate those contagious. Amazing news.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fd...aliva-testand-the-nba-is-involved-11597508654
 
Amazing news for college football (especially SEC/ACC/Big 12)....mass production of saliva based Corona tests that come back in a matter of hours.

Credit to NBA for funding the development of test. This basically ensures the SEC/ACC/Big 12 will move forward with seasons since they can now consistently monitor the health of players and isolate those contagious. Amazing news.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fd...aliva-testand-the-nba-is-involved-11597508654

Definitely good news but I think college football and colleges in general still will have problems. There are already reports of outbreaks and spikes at Notre Dame and UNC.

Rutgers had a saliva test which may not have been as quick as this Yale one but they had the ability to test at a high level. They still had 30 of their players test positive. It more than just testing and isolating. It's getting everyone top to bottom on the teams and conference wide to buy in. Rutgers was never going to compete and their players knew that. Every week more teams would come to the realization that they were going to have less and less to play for. Pair that with if colleges can even keep themselves open and I still think the conferences that are left still have a ton of hurdles.

I do think the Big 10 bailed on the season far too early and easily. Maybe a new format could have solved some issues. Playoffs or a double or triple elimination tournament might have worked to crown a big 10 champion while getting rid of teams who had nothing to play for.
 
Amazing news for college football (especially SEC/ACC/Big 12)....mass production of saliva based Corona tests that come back in a matter of hours.

Credit to NBA for funding the development of test. This basically ensures the SEC/ACC/Big 12 will move forward with seasons since they can now consistently monitor the health of players and isolate those contagious. Amazing news.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fd...aliva-testand-the-nba-is-involved-11597508654

It's behind a paywall, but with many of these tests, false negatives are a real problem. And if that happens, it means that some positive people are going to slip through and infect others, and there goes the integrity of your preventative measures. According to Yale, the results are similar to the swab tests, so I assume that includes false negatives:

 
It's behind a paywall, but with many of these tests, false negatives are a real problem. And if that happens, it means that some positive people are going to slip through and infect others, and there goes the integrity of your preventative measures. According to Yale, the results are similar to the swab tests, so I assume that includes false negatives:


If it's truly as a good as a nasal PCR test than it should be good enough. If it give only a small number of false positives or false negatives, it can be used to weed out who to retest.

With that being said, it still need a lab to preform the test and really this is just way to increase productivity. It also gets rid of some of the limiting factors with swabs and reagents. It will help to test more people in the general population if hospitals, universities, and private labs who have the equipment decide to use this test. I've said this in other threads, there is alot of idle equipment that is in research departments across the country that just needs someone to organize to borrow to increase testing. If you have to send a sample off site or to a completely different city like with private labs, it doesn't change much.

I think how much it will help sports is just hype. There is still alot of problems with player's behavior that doesn't change with faster tests. NBA isn't actually using this and they are daily testing. The reason they are working is the bubble with testing. I've seen some reporters say this may make it safe for fans to attend for the NFL and NBA, which is just a dream. It's not a quick enough test and isn't mobile or on-site to preform on game day to the masses.

 
It's behind a paywall, but with many of these tests, false negatives are a real problem. And if that happens, it means that some positive people are going to slip through and infect others, and there goes the integrity of your preventative measures. According to Yale, the results are similar to the swab tests, so I assume that includes false negatives:


The ability to test fast, but more importantly, cheaply is why this is so significant. For a saliva test, it's 90% accurate. But as Yale has said (it's in article), at approximately $10 a test, they can afford to do two tests and get 99.9% accuracy. The test has been amazing for the NBA, giving them ability to do unlimited, fast testing.

Here is another good link to understand the capabilties now:

A good thread to read from Andy Slavitt on twitter that goes deeper into why this test is a game changer.


The issue at the college level, was the inability of consistent testing across the country. Some schools have significantly better standards/operations. This test will give all schools ability to test, cheaply, on a consistent basis. Schools, like FSU for example, were waiting 48 hours for test results, which is obviously not suitable for a college football team. This will fix that.

I think the conferences that decided to push forward, now have a sustainable way to do it. Prior to this test I also was skeptical. But if you can test daily, and isolate those that are positive, it becomes much more manageable throughout the season.

And I guess the even better news is, this test will be huge for the country as a whole. Cheap, nationwide testing, via your spit, is much better than a swab 3 inches into your nose, and several days awaiting the result.
 
The ability to test fast, but more importantly, cheaply is why this is so significant. For a saliva test, it's 90% accurate. But as Yale has said (it's in article), at approximately $10 a test, they can afford to do two tests and get 99.9% accuracy. The test has been amazing for the NBA, giving them ability to do unlimited, fast testing.

Here is another good link to understand the capabilties now:

A good thread to read from Andy Slavitt on twitter that goes deeper into why this test is a game changer.


The issue at the college level, was the inability of consistent testing across the country. Some schools have significantly better standards/operations. This test will give all schools ability to test, cheaply, on a consistent basis. Schools, like FSU for example, were waiting 48 hours for test results, which is obviously not suitable for a college football team. This will fix that.

I think the conferences that decided to push forward, now have a sustainable way to do it. Prior to this test I also was skeptical. But if you can test daily, and isolate those that are positive, it becomes much more manageable throughout the season.

And I guess the even better news is, this test will be huge for the country as a whole. Cheap, nationwide testing, via your spit, is much better than a swab 3 inches into your nose, and several days awaiting the result.

I think FSU is a school this will help but there is a large list of schools in the ACC that the desire to keep safe won't out weight their desire to have fun because they won't be a winning games. To get college football to finish, those school and their players will have to stick to the protocols.

If the Big 10 was still operating, it's not OSU, Michigan, or Penn state I would be worried about getting their players to buy in. We saw Rutgers didn't buy in. Maryland, Minnesota, Purdue, IU, Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska is probably a list in order of who will quit caring at some point of the season.
 
I think FSU is a school this will help but there is a large list of schools in the ACC that the desire to keep safe won't out weight their desire to have fun because they won't be a winning games. To get college football to finish, those school and their players will have to stick to the protocols.

If the Big 10 was still operating, it's not OSU, Michigan, or Penn state I would be worried about getting their players to buy in. We saw Rutgers didn't buy in. Maryland, Minnesota, Purdue, IU, Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska is probably a list in order of who will quit caring at some point of the season.

Most ACC schools don't have the bankroll of the Big 10/Pac 12 who get significantly more federal money in grants. The Big 10 for example, has 12 schools in the AAU and collectively receive billions of dollars in grants from the government, yearly. Athletics certainly bring in considerable money, but it's actually pennies compared to the grants they get for being AAU members.

The ACC has 5 schools in the AAU. As a conference they are absolutely more dependent on football, and more specifically the TV money, to remain financially "healthy". The SEC only has 4 schools in the AAU.

It's not coincidental the richest conferences (outside of athletics) are the conferences who cancelled their seasons.

Anyways, this test is a game-changer. Both for sports, and the country/world.
 
Most ACC schools don't have the bankroll of the Big 10/Pac 12 who get significantly more federal money in grants. The Big 10 for example, has 12 schools in the AAU and collectively receive billions of dollars in grants from the government, yearly. Athletics certainly bring in considerable money, but it's actually pennies compared to the grants they get for being AAU members.

The ACC has 5 schools in the AAU. As a conference they are absolutely more dependent on football, and more specifically the TV money, to remain financially "healthy". The SEC only has 4 schools in the AAU.

It's not coincidental the richest conferences (outside of athletics) are the conferences who cancelled their seasons.

Anyways, this test is a game-changer. Both for sports, and the country/world.

I think there can be a desire of the university and coaching staff to get a season finished but what is less under their control is the desire by the players to finish off the season. If they aren't winning why would they give up their social life to get blown out each week. Also less under their control is the off campus parties which will most likely be the downfall of universities in general this year.

I think this salvia test will end up helping the general public more than sports. I don't think I would use "game changer" yet. There are still hurdles for this to get implemented. It needs local implementation across the board for it to make a real effect.

For sports they still need some sort of bubble concept or highly restrictive protocols to work. The question is if this can pick up someone is infected before they are infectious if not then it real doesn't change anything for sports. Even a nasal PCR test has a hard time picking up if someone is infected for the first 5 days of being infected. Saliva might be even longer than that.
 
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Growing build-up for the Big 10 to reconsider cancellation of season.

Momentum building based on news today of FDA approved test. Parents and players asking for another round of discussions.

I think there’s a shot here....
 
At this point, I personally have zero reason to credit one group of doctors over another. Proponents of a given approach tend to highlight the positives and downplay any qualifiers or negatives, and opponents tend to do the opposite.

The truth will probably be more evident to laypeople a bit down the road.
 

Shaun Wade's Dad ain't playin :chuckle:

It doesn't sound like Warren is in Chicago, although my assumption is there must be a contingent of players and parents that got this meeting on the books.

I think there's momentum in the favor of having a season. I'm getting cautiously optimistic......
 

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