2020 Buckeyes Football

[Rich]

I dont expect the Big Ten to change their 6 game rule.

But some others I do.

Play Texas A&M. Play Iowa. Play Maryland (assuming nebraska is willing to switch and play Rutgers.)

 

[col63onel]

Why make the rule in the first place? The big 10 shot themselves in the foot when they held firm on nebraska.

We all know the conference is going to be hypocritical and go bend over backwards for OSU. So it doesnt natter. Its just a terrible look moving the goal posts.

They didn't allow Nebraska to play a non-conference game because they can't be sure about the protocols of other teams in other conferences. Bad analogy.

EVERY conference has moved goalposts this year. B1G is just doing it so that their undisputed top program can compete for a title.

 

[Rich]

The 6 game rule was made for exactly this purpose. This is the scenario they foresaw.

It makes sense. Just because its OSU on the short end doesnt mean the rule is without purpose.

 

[Ohio]

The ACC literally just changed their schedule to guarantee Notre Dame and Clemson spots in their Championship game.

And they didn't have any stupid rules to change, either.

I mean, what are we even talking about, here?

The Big 10 isn't bending over backwards for OSU. They are correcting their own stupid fucking mistake.

 

[MediumBaller]

Rules they made up on the fly. It's not like these are longstanding traditions.


Disagree.


Or OSU should go independent. OSU would benefit from that and the B1G would suffer.

There is absolutely no way in hell that the Big 10 would change its rules to put a 5-0 Indiana into the conference title game over a 6-1 OSU. Zero chance. The Big 10 is going to do it here because it’s in the conference’s best interests, but it’s still mad shady. IU would’ve been better off canceling it’s game against OSU, going 6-0, and winning the division from Ohio State not having enough games in that situation.

I understand most here are OSU fans and I’m an IU fan, but imagine if Michigan was in OSU’s shoes, and OSU was in IU’s shoes. Fans would be pissed if the conference changed the rules to benefit Michigan.

 

[OptimusPrime]

There is absolutely no way in hell that the Big 10 would change its rules to put a 5-0 Indiana into the conference title game over a 6-1 OSU. Zero chance.

They absolutely would if Indiana was #4 in the playoff rankings.

 

[MediumBaller]

They absolutely would if Indiana was #4 in the playoff rankings.

No they wouldn’t. And it’s not like OSU will be knocked out of the playoff if they’re not in the conference title game. Every team plays that weekend, and the second place team would face Iowa. You’re going to be in the playoff unless you lose a game.

 

[daddywags]

If OSU doesn't play in the conference title game does anyone actually think whichever team wins that game has any claim to being the best team in the conference? Seriously, I'm a homer, but nobody needs some title game to know which team is the best team in the Big 10 this year.

 

[col63onel]

And it’s not like OSU will be knocked out of the playoff if they’re not in the conference title game.

Maybe

CFP normally has a bunch of criteria. This year they have 3.

Eye test
Head to head
Conference titles.

That's it. If IU had beaten OSU, then the conference would want them to win the conference title as well.

Sorry if you can't see. As a husband of an IU grad, and as someone who actually watched more IU than OSU this year, I want to see IU do well. If IU had completed the comeback, I absolutely would want IU in the B1G title, regardless of canceled games.

OSU in the CFP is best for the B1G. If the rest of the conference is gonna stand in the way of an undefeated OSU team, then OSU needs to go independent.

edit - Let me add that if somehow Florida/Georgia/ND and Texas AM were all mediocre, and the B1G had a shot at 2 teams, I would absolutely be advocating for Indiana to play NW and OSU to play Wisconsin/Iowa. That would be GREAT for the conference.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

The 6 game rule was made for exactly this purpose. This is the scenario they foresaw.

It makes sense. Just because its OSU on the short end doesnt mean the rule is without purpose.

I think the rule was put in place so a crappy team that ducked the tough games didn't end up in the championship. That was the scenario they foresaw and were trying to avoid.

I don't think the scenario they had in mind was excluding the No.4 team in the country because two of its opponents cancelled on them.

In fact, this is kind of their nightmare scenario.

 

[-Akronite-]

There will either be another cancellation in conference to give us an opponent, or the B1G will change the rules. No way they stick to their guns on an arbitrary threshold just to lose out on playoff money.

Absolutely sucks that we lose The Game due to the B1G being dumb about scheduling, especially since we're so prepared to beat their ass into the pavement. Guess we'll have to pick the streak back up next year.



No idea if the conference would do right by the smaller schools in the same situation, but it'd be the right thing to do.

 

[caf]

If OSU doesn't play in the conference title game does anyone actually think whichever team wins that game has any claim to being the best team in the conference? Seriously, I'm a homer, but nobody needs some title game to know which team is the best team in the Big 10 this year.

Really? OSUs schedule has been weak as hell and they havent looked particularly impressive defensively all year.

Sure IU lost against OSU. But it was only a one score game. IU could definitely beat them. Saying OSU is by far and away better than IU is ignoring reality.

 

[MediumBaller]

Maybe

CFP normally has a bunch of criteria. This year they have 3.

Eye test
Head to head
Conference titles.

That's it. If IU had beaten OSU, then the conference would want them to win the conference title as well.

Sorry if you can't see. As a husband of an IU grad, and as someone who actually watched more IU than OSU this year, I want to see IU do well. If IU had completed the comeback, I absolutely would want IU in the B1G title, regardless of canceled games.

OSU in the CFP is best for the B1G. If the rest of the conference is gonna stand in the way of an undefeated OSU team, then OSU needs to go independent.

And if Ohio State hasn’t chosen to cancel one of its games they wouldn’t be in this situation either. IU lost to Ohio state by 7 points and had the ball with a chance to tie on their last possession. If Ohio State had blown us out then sure, I’d see your point. But they didn’t. The conference put this rule into place to account for a situation like this. If they were just going to change the rules if Ohio State didn’t play enough games then IU would’ve been better off canceling.

If they’re going to change them anyway, why not change them to have IU and Ohio State play in the title game?

 

[col63onel]

And if Ohio State hasn’t chosen to cancel one of its games they wouldn’t be in this situation either. IU lost to Ohio state by 7 points and had the ball with a chance to tie on their last possession. If Ohio State had blown us out then sure, I’d see your point. But they didn’t. The conference put this rule into place to account for a situation like this. If they were just going to change the rules if Ohio State didn’t play enough games then IU would’ve been better off canceling.

And if Maryland hadn't ducked us while choosing to play Indiana, this wouldn't be a scenario.

We can play what ifs all we want. The facts are OSU beat IU AND has a better record. Arguing a team with a worse record and lost head to head getting is why people hated the BCS.

 

[caf]

If they’re going to change them anyway, why not change them to have IU and Ohio State play in the title game?

If they are going to arbitrarily change the rules... this would be the most fair suggestion.