2021 MLB Draft / College Baseball Thread

[LL3]

Mayo and company's latest mock...

Mock Draft: Here's what scouts are thinking

Normally at this time of year, with college conference tournaments just completed and high school seasons nearly over, we’d be in full-on Draft fever/panic mode, trying to get one of our last mocks correct right before the Draft started. So it’s been hard to tell that muscle memory to take

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They are tabbing Joe Mack, C, Williamsville East HS for the Tribe at 23.

 

[Tondo]

MLB Mock Draft: PG Staff

Perfect Game has released an updated two-round mock draft, with the scouting staff taking turns with selections, with analysis along with each pick.

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PG 2 round mock, always with good info/rumors in it

 

[DickyLeftridge]

I don't know anything but I want Bieber Jr.

LET'S RIDE

 

[LL3]

Mayer, Leiter headline latest mock Draft

If the Draft hadn't moved to July 11-13, it would have concluded Wednesday with rounds 11 through 20. Instead of the certainty of knowing which teams selected which players, there's still a lot of uncertainty about what will transpire a month from now. Teams haven't held meetings to set their

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This week's mock has us looking at :
23. Indians: Peyton Stovall, 2B, Haughton (La.) HS
The Indians may be targeting some of the best high school hitters (Ford, Stovall, Mack) but also could opt for a pitcher such as Petty or McGreevy.

I still like Solometo and McGreevy, but no expert am I.

 

[Tondo]

Mayer, Leiter headline latest mock Draft

If the Draft hadn't moved to July 11-13, it would have concluded Wednesday with rounds 11 through 20. Instead of the certainty of knowing which teams selected which players, there's still a lot of uncertainty about what will transpire a month from now. Teams haven't held meetings to set their

www.mlb.com

This week's mock has us looking at :
23. Indians: Peyton Stovall, 2B, Haughton (La.) HS
The Indians may be targeting some of the best high school hitters (Ford, Stovall, Mack) but also could opt for a pitcher such as Petty or McGreevy.

I still like Solometo and McGreevy, but no expert am I.

Like Stovall and Lile. Profile projections read like Kipnis and Brantley, but HS bats are so tough to get right. In recent drafts they've also selected some late risers like Y. Valdes and C. Tucker. That player would be California HS SS Carson Williams. Not sure about him though, always skeptical about late rising hype.

I'd like to avoid the big strong fast bucket with Joshua Baez or Lonnie White and a couple of others.

I like McGreevy, but the college pitching is deeper than ever and they usually are very good at finding value in the mid to later rounds there.
Ideally, one HS bat, one HS arm and one college arm with the 3 top picks on day one. Best HS value in round 3 and (mostly) college arms and bats rest of the way, with a couple more HS or JC fliers mixed in

 

[Gson]

MLB Mock Draft: PG Staff

Perfect Game has released an updated two-round mock draft, with the scouting staff taking turns with selections, with analysis along with each pick.

www.perfectgame.org

PG 2 round mock, always with good info/rumors in it

Solomento <== soft pass..
Black <=== are there 10 more like him..good/great choice
Schwellenbach <=== pitcher or position player?... Either way.. this is a solid pick..

Mack > Solomento...

The kind of pitchers the Indians can draft and develop should be considered for the fourth round and beyond.. this hitters/position players should be the focus.. Only if someone that's really that good, coughjobecough, should the Indians stock up on a pitcher in the first three picks.. If the Tribe can trade for another CB pick, A or B, that would be a nice "get"..

 

[mopete12]

Not really draft related, but Arkansas decided to start reliever Kevin Kopps today (his first start) in their elimination game. He has currently thrown 114 pitches through 8 innings and is on the mound for the 9th. It’s crazy how these college coaches use their pitchers.

edit: and on pitch number 118 he lets up a solo homer and thankfully is removed from the game.

 

[biggie4]

Would like to have One of those lefties from NC State on our team

 

[Tondo]

With 4 weeks left to the draft, here's CLE mock 2.0 with some personal favorites and profiles CLEFO has been drafting:

23 SS Carson Williams CA HS, 18.0yo
Here's the late riser in this year's class (along with Will Taylor who was in my first mock). Checks multiple other boxes too: California prepster, age, good athlete. Also a pitcher, so the profile comes with a plus plus arm with a move to 3B possible. Lots of 50 and 55 tools, balanced profile. Lots of similarities to last year's 1st rd pick Carson Tucker. Will also come at a discount if picked here. I'd guess 2-2.3M (where ever he's selected, also a possibility as overslot in rd 2)

Round 2, 58 ovr LHP Frank Mozzicato CT HS, 18.0yo
Gut feeling (formed by past patterns) is another HS pick here, with both another bat or arm in play. Mozzicato is another late riser, who popped up by throwing multiple no hitters this year. Also age and an enticing mix of now stuff and projection. Already features a plus Curve, with plus plus and command projected. Velo is average, but it's a rising FB and 6'3 frame, so more to dream on.

Comp rd 2, 69 ovr RHP Jonathan Cannon, Georgia 20.11yo
This is where I see them reach a bit for a college player they like and sign under slot (think Nick Sandlin). Arms like Marceaux, Abbott, Nikhazy, MacLeod, K. Abel are more likely to sign under slot, but I like the upside with Cannon, a draft eligible r-Fr. 6'6 and athletic, throws strikes, strong performance in SEC

Round 3, 95 ovr OF Daylen Lile KY HS, 18.7yo
Similar to the Halpin selection a year ago, this is the last protected pick to gamble on a HS player that slips a bit. This will be a SS if they go OF earlier, but I like Lile here, one of the purest bats in the HS class. Profile reads like a HS version of Michael Brantley. Scouts don't know if he'll hit for power, but great hitter, not sure if he's a CF, not a good arm, so LF. All of that isn't sexy, but the guy can hit, gap hitter, bat speed and some strength/power protection left. My kind of HS bat. Peyton Stovall is the INF version of Lile.

To be continued later....

 

[Gson]

With 4 weeks left to the draft, here's CLE mock 2.0 with some personal favorites and profiles CLEFO has been drafting:

23 SS Carson Williams CA HS, 18.0yo
Here's the late riser in this year's class (along with Will Taylor who was in my first mock). Checks multiple other boxes too: California prepster, age, good athlete. Also a pitcher, so the profile comes with a plus plus arm with a move to 3B possible. Lots of 50 and 55 tools, balanced profile. Lots of similarities to last year's 1st rd pick Carson Tucker. Will also come at a discount if picked here. I'd guess 2-2.3M (where ever he's selected, also a possibility as overslot in rd 2)

Round 2, 58 ovr LHP Frank Mozzicato CT HS, 18.0yo
Gut feeling (formed by past patterns) is another HS pick here, with both another bat or arm in play. Mozzicato is another late riser, who popped up by throwing multiple no hitters this year. Also age and an enticing mix of now stuff and projection. Already features a plus Curve, with plus plus and command projected. Velo is average, but it's a rising FB and 6'3 frame, so more to dream on.

Comp rd 2, 69 ovr RHP Jonathan Cannon, Georgia 20.11yo
This is where I see them reach a bit for a college player they like and sign under slot (think Nick Sandlin). Arms like Marceaux, Abbott, Nikhazy, MacLeod, K. Abel are more likely to sign under slot, but I like the upside with Cannon, a draft eligible r-Fr. 6'6 and athletic, throws strikes, strong performance in SEC

Round 3, 95 ovr OF Daylen Lile KY HS, 18.7yo
Similar to the Halpin selection a year ago, this is the last protected pick to gamble on a HS player that slips a bit. This will be a SS if they go OF earlier, but I like Lile here, one of the purest bats in the HS class. Profile reads like a HS version of Michael Brantley. Scouts don't know if he'll hit for power, but great hitter, not sure if he's a CF, not a good arm, so LF. All of that isn't sexy, but the guy can hit, gap hitter, bat speed and some strength/power protection left. My kind of HS bat. Peyton Stovall is the INF version of Lile.

To be continued later....

...a 6'6" guy that IS a cannon....

 

[Tondo]

Mock 2.0 continued...
1) SS Carson Williams
2a) LHP Frank Mozzicato
2b) RHP Jonathan Cannon
3) OF Daylen Lile

Round 4, 125 ovr 1B JT Schwartz, UCLA, 21.6yo
It's a pretty strong college 1B class, so I hope they go against their tendencies for one. Schwartz had an OBP over 500 this season and more walks than strikeouts in a power conference. That's stuff they should like too. Fellow PAC 12 1B Kyle Manzardo (Wash St.) another possibility here.

Round 5, 156 ovr LHP Dylan Dodd, SE Missouri St, 23.1yo
A true budget saving SR with talent. K/BB darling, good FB/SL combo. Could be fast tracked as reliever or developed as SP. Similar profile to Adam Scott a few years back drafted in round 4. Could help spend some money later and still get a decent prospect.

Round 6, 186 ovr C CJ Rodriguez, Vandy, 20.11yo
Your prototypical CLE catcher, defense over offense. Strong leadership skills, more walks than K in SEC, but light bat, though with projection left and age on his side too.

Round 7, 216 ovr RHP Austin Love, North Carolina, 22.5yo
College big school sleeper time. Solid stuff in a solid pitcher's frame. Chance at 3 above average pitches, FB reaches mid 90s, sits 92-94.

Round 8, 246 ovr CF Donta Williams, Arizona, 22.0yo
Inexplicably, Williams isn't on anyone's radar, not even on top 400 or 500 lists I've seen, despite strong performance track record in a power conference, very similar to Kwan and Ka'ai Tom. Like those two, he's an undersized CF leadoff hitter with more BB than K and an OBP around 500 since 2020. Some speed and improved power this season.

Round 9, 277 ovr RHP Andrew Hoffmann, Illinois, 21.5yo
6'5 sleeper with solid arsenal and few miles on his arm due to yearly transfers. Good performance and still offers projection.

Round 10 307 ovr RHP Landen Roupp, UNC Wilmington, 22.9yo
One of the best CAA conference arms (Civale, Royalty) the past two seasons. Starters arsenal. So many solid college arms to choose from this draft. The mid rounds are value land for college pitching, so add lots of them.

 

[AZ_]

Q&A ongoing today if anyone wanted to read through.

 

[Tondo]

3 weeks today from the draft, some thoughts:

Don't see a college arm at 23, maybe if Hoglund or Wicks fall there, though Wicks isn't their type. McGreevy should check a lot of boxes, but at 23 only if he comes at a major discount.

If we look for upside at 23, HS pitching probably offers the best value. Andrew Painter is a lot like E. Hankins, big guy with big stuff. Chase Petty is on the smaller side, but equally loud stuff, somewhat a mix of Espino and L. Torres.
Good chance one of them drops to 23. If not, Cali prepster Thatcher Hurd could be in play, athletic MIF turned P, already flashes good stuff with upside left. Lefties Mozzicato and Gage Jump longshots at 23, but possible if they like one so much and cut a deal, but the HS P depth makes me think, they'll target one of those arms in round 2 for over slot. Same with LHP Josh Hartle

Don't see a college bat at all at 23.

HS bat has usually been the most likely CLE demographic early in drafts. Peyton Stovall has T. Freeman, Bracho, Kipnis appeal, but probably not the high upside profile they seek. Will Taylor a CF profile they should like, but maybe the bat's too light and he's a RHB, so he's another prospect that they probably like more in round 2 if available and signable. CLE always likes HS SS from California, and Carson Williams and Cody Schrier check a lot of boxes, as does C Mack and PR SS Arroyo. Noah Miller, Owen's bro, I see more of a round 2/3 gamble.

To conclude, as of now, I see them target a prepster with Painter, Petty, C. Williams the most likely selections at 23 with Stovall and Schrier also in play.

In round 2, another HS pick, alternating pitcher/hitter depending on the selection in round 1

Round 2 comp probably a college player with round 3 another HS gamble (or vice versa)

Some possible combinations for rounds 1 and 2:

C. Petty/C. Schrier
C. Williams/T. Hurd
A. Painter/E. Arroyo
P. Stovall/G. Jump
W. Taylor/F. Mozzicato

 

[DickyLeftridge]

3 weeks today from the draft, some thoughts:

Don't see a college arm at 23, maybe if Hoglund or Wicks fall there, though Wicks isn't their type. McGreevy should check a lot of boxes, but at 23 only if he comes at a major discount.

If we look for upside at 23, HS pitching probably offers the best value. Andrew Painter is a lot like E. Hankins, big guy with big stuff. Chase Petty is on the smaller side, but equally loud stuff, somewhat a mix of Espino and L. Torres.
Good chance one of them drops to 23. If not, Cali prepster Thatcher Hurd could be in play, athletic MIF turned P, already flashes good stuff with upside left. Lefties Mozzicato and Gage Jump longshots at 23, but possible if they like one so much and cut a deal, but the HS P depth makes me think, they'll target one of those arms in round 2 for over slot. Same with LHP Josh Hartle

Don't see a college bat at all at 23.

HS bat has usually been the most likely CLE demographic early in drafts. Peyton Stovall has T. Freeman, Bracho, Kipnis appeal, but probably not the high upside profile they seek. Will Taylor a CF profile they should like, but maybe the bat's too light and he's a RHB, so he's another prospect that they probably like more in round 2 if available and signable. CLE always likes HS SS from California, and Carson Williams and Cody Schrier check a lot of boxes, as does C Mack and PR SS Arroyo. Noah Miller, Owen's bro, I see more of a round 2/3 gamble.

To conclude, as of now, I see them target a prepster with Painter, Petty, C. Williams the most likely selections at 23 with Stovall and Schrier also in play.

In round 2, another HS pick, alternating pitcher/hitter depending on the selection in round 1

Round 2 comp probably a college player with round 3 another HS gamble (or vice versa)

Some possible combinations for rounds 1 and 2:

C. Petty/C. Schrier
C. Williams/T. Hurd
A. Painter/E. Arroyo
P. Stovall/G. Jump
W. Taylor/F. Mozzicato

Good stuff keep it coming. Love the draft and been poking around in here and on MLB Pipeline. What about that big Wake Forest pitcher who touches 102? Projected right around our 1st Round slot. I like him, Petty, and Bieber Jr. But you can't argue against that 102 GAS.

 

[sportscoach]

@Tondo

In this draft, who would be your first two picks if you could choose and not worry about them signing?

Also the Indians are notorious (in my mind) for drafting underslot with their first pick and overslot with the second one. If we go by this strategy, who would be the early underslot and the second overslot?

And another question... Do you have a rank of the catching prospects? Personally I would like one earlier rather than later in this draft.