2021 Series #27 | Royals @ Indians | July 8-11, 2021

[Gson]

What station? (Aka can I get it from MLB.tv)

MLB Network and Sirius XM radio..

 

[sportscoach]

MLB Network and Sirius XM radio..

I have neither lol well kind of do for free with my car at the moment, but that's not setup for anything outside of my car lol

 

[Gson]

I have neither lol well kind of do for free with my car at the moment, but that's not setup for anything outside of my car lol

Free Advice: ...sounds like a good idea to run out and buy a new car perhaps blue?.. I could be wrong about this.....

 

[sportscoach]

Free Advice: ...sounds like a good idea to run out and buy a new car perhaps blue?.. I could be wrong about this.....

That's what I did... Kind of new... Lol it's blue and it's a 21. Someone bought it, didn't like it and traded it in with 400 miles on it so I was able to get it cheaper. The Sirius on it is free for a year, but the Sirius isn't under my name so I cannot listen to it outside of my car haha

 

[CDAV45]

Just to clear things up, nobody suggested acquiring Soler. I implied that his power can positively affect a game even in the midst of his terrible season. Luplow did the same for us early in the year even though his overall numbers are horrid. The same can be said for Cesar too. His overall lines are not what we've come to expect, but he's hit 15 HR and helped this team wins some games with that power. It should also be mentioned that while Soler had a couple of poor seasons, he's had several where his OPS+ was above average. A couple were well above average. The point is that power plays even when all else about one's game looks dismal. It certainly helped this team win a few games and having JRam, Reyes, and Bradley gives us real power and the ability to put a game away. Too bad Eddie hasn't tapped into his and ended up on the IL.

Considering that, I'm wondering if the worst case scenario in calling Jones up in the 2nd half wouldn't be similar. Even if he didn't maintain a good average or OBP, would his power positively influence the lineup? I'm not saying it would or wouldn't, just curious if it would?

 

[KilgoreTrout]

Does this count as a sweep?

 

[mopete12]

Ideally I think you'd be combining EV with launch angle for each hit and then taking an average of that... but I fail to see how max EV really matters more. High max EV + low average EV = Willi Castro.

I asked Ben Clemens in his Fangraphs chat today and this was his response:


Mopete
2:23
Hey Ben, I know you’ve discussed this in the past chats but I can’t find it, can you explain why looking at average exit velocity for a hitter isn’t very useful?

Ben Clemens
2:24
What a heck of a coincidence, I'm writing about this for tomorrow as it relates to Omar Narvaez

But roughly speaking... exit velocity increases aren't worth the same uniformly throughout the distribution

2:25
Going from 79 to 80 isn't as valuable as going from 99 to 100

And so when you use an average metric, it treats every 1mph as the same implicitly

 

[KluberSociety]

I asked Ben Clemens in his Fangraphs chat today and this was his response:


Mopete
2:23
Hey Ben, I know you’ve discussed this in the past chats but I can’t find it, can you explain why looking at average exit velocity for a hitter isn’t very useful?

Ben Clemens
2:24
What a heck of a coincidence, I'm writing about this for tomorrow as it relates to Omar Narvaez

But roughly speaking... exit velocity increases aren't worth the same uniformly throughout the distribution

2:25
Going from 79 to 80 isn't as valuable as going from 99 to 100

And so when you use an average metric, it treats every 1mph as the same implicitly

Thanks! I'm still doubtful that max is more useful than average but I guess it's about what I figured. You'd be better off turning each ball in play into some sort of expected value and averaging them up which is what I believe is done in the "x" stats like xwOBA.

So while average EV is certainly "lazy" in that it doesn't capture nearly as much as xwOBA it still is an indicator as to the quality of contact.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

I asked Ben Clemens in his Fangraphs chat today and this was his response:


Mopete
2:23
Hey Ben, I know you’ve discussed this in the past chats but I can’t find it, can you explain why looking at average exit velocity for a hitter isn’t very useful?

Ben Clemens
2:24
What a heck of a coincidence, I'm writing about this for tomorrow as it relates to Omar Narvaez

But roughly speaking... exit velocity increases aren't worth the same uniformly throughout the distribution

2:25
Going from 79 to 80 isn't as valuable as going from 99 to 100

And so when you use an average metric, it treats every 1mph as the same implicitly

Based off that, at first glance without giving any thought, it sounds like "% of contact that deviates more than x std deviations from the league mean" might be a really valuable stat.

Maybe have columns for 1 stddev, 1.5, 2, etc. That likely tells you a lot more about a player's exit velocity than just one mean.

 

[KluberSociety]

Based off that, at first glance without giving any thought, it sounds like "% of contact that deviates more than x std deviations from the league mean" might be a really valuable stat.

Maybe have columns for 1 stddev, 1.5, 2, etc. That likely tells you a lot more about a player's exit velocity than just one mean.

I think that's sort of what Fangraphs' %Soft/Hard/Med attempt to deal with, albeit in a different way. Although there's no real Hard/Extra Hard which is where some kind of standard deviation thing would be much helpful. So it's hard, well how hard? Seems to be important.