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2021 Series #27 | Royals @ Indians | July 8-11, 2021

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Since I don't know what Sarbaugh told Johnson, I dont know if Johnson was supposed to go on contact or not....

IMO it was the right call, and more a confluence of happenings, than a bunch of individual mistakes.
Hoynes came up with an explanation for the fiasco at third base Friday night.


1. Daniel Johnson screwed up. His instruction was to stay at third on a ground ball unless it got through, but he broke for home as the ball was hit and got caught off third. Individual mistake #1.

2. If Tito had challenged the call it would have been clear that Johnson was tagged out before Hernandez was tagged and Hernandez would have been safe, putting runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out. Mistake #2 - not asking for a replay right away on a complicated play that happened very quickly and is easy to get wrong.

“They said if we would’ve challenged, they would’ve put Cesar at third with one out, which we would’ve definitely taken,” said Francona.

3. Tito was so mad he didn't think about challenging the call until after he was ejected and halfway to the locker room. He assumed it was too late to challenge the call. He has 20 seconds to decide and he spent a couple of minutes arguing which may have cost him the chance to get a review.

4. The Indians' replay coach wanted a review but with Tito blowing a gasket he wasn't able to get Tito's attention (my interpretation).

“Now, I will admit, during that conversation (with Hoye) nothing ever came up about replay,” said Francona. “It didn’t come up from me either. I probably would be remaking history because I don’t know. I mean I was mad.

“I got about halfway up the (dugout) hallway (after being ejected) and I was like, ‘Man, I wonder if we could replay something?’ DeMarlo (Hale, bench coach) kind of said the same thing and Barney (Mike Barnett, Indians replay coordinator) said the same thing".


So two bench coaches were asking for a replay but Tito was on the field screaming his head off and using up the allotted time. At least Tito manned up and admitted "I lost my composure".

My question is - what if this had been a playoff game? Managers don't have the luxury of losing their composure. Saying "I was mad" isn't an excuse. Fortunately, Bobby Bradley bailed everybody out, including "Barney" who should have rushed out and tackled Tito and told him to just ask for a replay instead of trying to make the ridiculous argument that Johnson shouldn't be out because Johnson got confused.

To be fair, I don't know if Barney was able to see exactly what happened in the allotted time. They probably did because every angle I saw showed Johnson clearly off the bag while he was being tagged by Perez before Hernandez was tagged.

The Indians ended up winning the game thanks to Karinchak pitching a scoreless ninth (despite giving up a leadoff double) and Bradley's walk-off, but that was a poor job of handling a crucial late game situation by Tito and I hope he realizes it and does a better job of controlling his emotions from here on in.

It was kind of a perfect storm of events that led to both runners being called out, including the umpire being screened so he couldn't see Johnson's hand come off the bag when he was first tagged. It's clear that nobody on the Indians bench realized what happened because Tito and Sarbaugh were arguing that Johnson left the bag on purpose AFTER Hernandez was tagged, thinking it was him that had been called out.

We won't see a play exactly like this again, but the key takeaways for me are that Johnson needs to learn to follow instructions (i.e. "Don't run on a ground ball until you see it go through") and Tito needs to avoid letting his emotions overcome his thinking process. Also, the replay coordinator needs to get more aggressive when he sees a play that needs to be reviewed.
 
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Hoynes came up with an explanation for the fiasco at third base Friday night.


1. Daniel Johnson screwed up. His instruction was to stay at third on a ground ball unless it got through, but he broke for home as the ball was hit and got caught off third. Individual mistake #1.

2. If Tito had challenged the call it would have been clear that Johnson was tagged out before Hernandez was tagged and Hernandez would have been safe, putting runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out. Mistake #2 - not asking for a replay right away on a complicated play that happened very quickly and is easy to get wrong.

“They said if we would’ve challenged, they would’ve put Cesar at third with one out, which we would’ve definitely taken,” said Francona.

3. Tito was so mad he didn't think about challenging the call until after he was ejected and halfway to the locker room. He assumed it was too late to challenge the call. He has 20 seconds to decide and he spent a couple of minutes arguing which may have cost him the chance to get a review.

4. The Indians' replay coach wanted a review but with Tito blowing a gasket he wasn't able to get Tito's attention (my interpretation).

“Now, I will admit, during that conversation (with Hoye) nothing ever came up about replay,” said Francona. “It didn’t come up from me either. I probably would be remaking history because I don’t know. I mean I was mad.

“I got about halfway up the (dugout) hallway (after being ejected) and I was like, ‘Man, I wonder if we could replay something?’ DeMarlo (Hale, bench coach) kind of said the same thing and Barney (Mike Barnett, Indians replay coordinator) said the same thing".


So two bench coaches were asking for a replay but Tito was on the field screaming his head off and using up the allotted time. At least Tito manned up and admitted "I lost my composure".

My question is - what if this had been a playoff game? Managers don't have the luxury of losing their composure. Saying "I was mad" isn't an excuse. Fortunately, Bobby Bradley bailed everybody out, including "Barney" who should have rushed out and tackled Tito and told him to just ask for a replay instead of trying to make the ridiculous argument that Johnson shouldn't be out because Johnson got confused.

To be fair, I don't know if Barney was able to see exactly what happened in the allotted time. They probably did because every angle I saw showed Johnson clearly off the bag while he was being tagged by Perez before Hernandez was tagged.

The Indians ended up winning the game thanks to Karinchak pitching a scoreless ninth (despite giving up a leadoff double) and Bradley's walk-off, but that was a poor job of handling a crucial late game situation by Tito and I hope he realizes it and does a better job of controlling his emotions from here on in.

It was kind of a perfect storm of events that led to both runners being called out, including the umpire being screened so he couldn't see Johnson's hand come off the bag when he was first tagged. It's clear that nobody on the Indians bench realized what happened because Tito and Sarbaugh were arguing that Johnson left the bag on purpose AFTER Hernandez was tagged, thinking it was him that had been called out.

We won't see a play exactly like this again, but the key takeaways for me are that Johnson needs to learn to follow instructions (i.e. "Don't run on a ground ball until you see it go through) and Tito needs to avoid letting his emotions overcome his thinking process. Also, the replay coordinator needs to get more aggressive when he sees a play that needs to be reviewed.

Eh... I think Tito just needed to blow off some steam anyways so let him get it out of his system. He won't make that mistakes again if he sees it again and that's what matters. It's actually pretty rare we see something like that anyways so I don't fault him for it.
 
Looks like the Royals are going with a bullpen game tonight. Kris Bubic was originally listed as the starter but Hoynes says it's now Carlos Hernandez, who has 12 relief appearances but no starts. Hernandez has pitched 21.2 innings in those 12 appearances. Bubic has pitched much better in relief so we might see him in the third inning.

Going into last night's game Bally Sports had a graphic showing the Royals' bullpen has an ERA over 8.00 against the Indians this year, and that went even higher last night. In the first three games of this series the Royals' bullpen has allowed 15 earned runs in 8 innings. The boys are swinging the bats well so this could be another high scoring game for the Tribe.

However, the Royals best relievers should all be available tonight, especially since there are no games until next weekend. I expect Matheny to throw his best relievers at the Tribe today in an attempt to avoid getting swept going into the break.

The Royals have lost 12 consecutive road games and they will want to break that streak before going to the break.

Eli Morgan brings an unsightly 8.44 ERA into this start, but his trend line is positive. Here are his first five starts, in order:

1. 2.2 innings, 6 ER's
2. 3.2 innings, 3 ER's
3. 5.0 innings, 4 ER's
4. 5.0 innings, 4 ER's
5. 5.0 innings, 3 ER's (against Houston, the highest scoring team in baseball by a wide margin)

So three starts in a row he went five innings. His trend line is up. If he pitches as well against the Royals as he did against Houston I can see six innings and one or two runs allowed.

Speaking of trend lines, here are the Indians major league ranking in runs per game at the end of each month.

April - 24th
May - 21st
June - 14th

As of July 11 they are 15th. I won't be surprised if they move up a few more spots in the second half.

Josie usually has a strong second half.

Since returning to the lineup Franmil has a line of .345/1.077 with 9 RBIs in 7 games.

Oscar Mercado is hitting .281/.843 filling in for Eddie Rosario.

Bobby Bradley is hitting .240/.913 since taking over for Bauers/Chang at first base.

Harold Ramirez is hitting .280/.782, including .338 with runners on and .375 with RISP. Eddie Rosario hit .283/.719 in June and was 4-for-10 in July before getting hurt.

Roberto Perez, after missing two months, is hitting .263/.895 with 5 RBIs in 5 games.

The Indians have worked through some issues. Guys who weren't producing have been replaced by better hitters; Andres Gimenez hit .179, Yu Chang .176, Jake Bauers .190, Owen Miller .106. All those guys have been upgraded. The days of looking at an Indians lineup card with five guys under .200 are gone. Berto is the only guy left under the Mendoza line and he might be one of the most productive sub-.200 hitters in the game.

Should be a pretty interesting second half.
 
Eh... I think Tito just needed to blow off some steam anyways so let him get it out of his system. He won't make that mistakes again if he sees it again and that's what matters. It's actually pretty rare we see something like that anyways so I don't fault him for it.
Yep......I think it was more pent up frustration over the last 10 days or so than the actual play itself. If Tito wasn't going to lose his shit over the Angel Hernandez fuckup earlier this year then I can't see him doing just because of this one play.
 
Yep......I think it was more pent up frustration over the last 10 days or so than the actual play itself. If Tito wasn't going to lose his shit over the Angel Hernandez fuckup earlier this year then I can't see him doing just because of this one play.

Well the problem with Angel Hernandez is the fact you expect him to fuckup something. So in a sense you are prepared for it. I think he just lost his cool cause of that pent-up frustration and when he didn't like the call, it just came out. Pretty much we agree on this lol
 
When Tito doesn't lose his cool, fans complain...and complain a lot.

I never understood that, because its more important to be thinking than throwing a temper tantrum....which we saw on Friday.

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We are seeing the possibilities of JRam-Franmil-Bradley as the middle of our lineup.

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Still not concerned about Hernandez bat. He has historically been a better second half hitter...not like Santana, and not every year...but generally better. And he has always been a decent OBP guy. The lack of team run production has probably driven his penchant for the long ball, but with the stronger middle of the lineup, that may change.

His best season was 2017, in which he struggled to a first half OPS of .735. (Its .718 currently) His second half OPS was .842 with an OBP of .403.

I dont expect that kind of production, but a significant uptick is reasonable.

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The rotation coming out of the break seems to be some combo of Plesac-Peacock-TMac-Quantrill. We will only need a fifth starter once in July. The opposing offenses will be pretty heavy duty.

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Some folks like the pop that Soler provides. I'd much prefer value. Soler has had one productive season in his career. In the other seven, he has provided the grand total of one fWAR, which is replacement level.
 
Wish the draft was sooner today. Since we don't have a game today....
 
That's 12 games in 10 days from Sep. 17 to Sep. 26. But four of those games will be seven innings.

This rainout should work to the Tribe's advantage because instead of Eli Morgan starting on July 11 we'll have somebody like Bieber or Plesac starting on Sep. 20. The more games that get pushed back from July to September the bettter because in September we should have the entire rotation back and we won't be going with our 8th and 9th best starters.
 

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