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2022 Cleveland Guardians Regular Season Thread

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Agreed, play Clement when appropriate.

Let Miller take 1B at bats or DH in Columbus to get right.

Time to continue on sorting out who cuts the mustard around these parts. Lil' I-71 Shuffle to wrap up this season
 
TxBuckeye said:
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Amazing that the G's have NINE prospects in the top 100 while no other team has more than six. In fact, 24 teams have four or fewer.

Looking at the other A.L. Central teams it's clear that the Guardians are positioned to dominate the division for the rest of the 20's.

Guardians prospects, ranking, and anticipated arrival dates:

Espino, 10, 2023
Valera, 29, 2023
Williams, 75, 2024
Arias, 77, 2022
Rocchio, 82, 2023
Freeman, 83, 2022
Logan Allen, 95, 2022
Jones, 96, 2022
Naylor, 100, 2023

The Tigers have ONE prospect (#22) in the top 100 with an arrival date of 2025.

The Twins have ONE (#37) with an arrival date of 2023.

The Royals have TWO (#55 and #66) with arrival dates of 2022.

The White Sox have ONE (#85) with an arrival date of 2025.

So the Guardians have 9 top 100 prospects compared to 1, 1, 1, and 2 for the other A.L. Central teams. The Tigers and White Sox have just one player in the top 100 and neither of them is expected to help the big club until 2025.

Eight of the nine Guardians prospects are either here already (Jones, Freeman) or are expected to arrive this year or next. The only exception is Williams in 2024. Quite a contrast to the Tigers and White Sox who will have to wait three years for one guy.

When you also consider that the Guardians' current major league roster is the youngest in MLB and is also younger than ALL of the AAA teams, it's kind of mind boggling to think about how the Guardians are poised to take a quantum leap forward and leave the other A.L. Central teams in the dust.

The White Sox seem to be particularly vulnerable, looking at the ages of some of their key players; Cueto 36, Lance Lynn 35, Jake Diekman 35, Joe Kelly 34, Liam Hendricks 33, Yasmani Grandal 33, Jose Abreu 35, Josh Harrison 35, and AJ Pollock 34. Our oldest key player is Jose Ramirez, 29.

The Tigers are in better shape as Miggy, 39, is their only key player over 30. But their only top 100 prospect is three years away.

The Twins are not in bad shape age-wise but they have only one prospect on the way.
 
Wham with the Right Hand said:
Amazing that the G's have NINE prospects in the top 100 while no other team has more than six. In fact, 24 teams have four or fewer.

Looking at the other A.L. Central teams it's clear that the Guardians are positioned to dominate the division for the rest of the 20's.

Guardians prospects, ranking, and anticipated arrival dates:

Espino, 10, 2023
Valera, 29, 2023
Williams, 75, 2024
Arias, 77, 2022
Rocchio, 82, 2023
Freeman, 83, 2022
Logan Allen, 95, 2022
Jones, 96, 2022
Naylor, 100, 2023

The Tigers have ONE prospect (#22) in the top 100 with an arrival date of 2025.

The Twins have ONE (#37) with an arrival date of 2023.

The Royals have TWO (#55 and #66) with arrival dates of 2022.

The White Sox have ONE (#85) with an arrival date of 2025.

So the Guardians have 9 top 100 prospects compared to 1, 1, 1, and 2 for the other A.L. Central teams. The Tigers and White Sox have just one player in the top 100 and neither of them is expected to help the big club until 2025.

Eight of the nine Guardians prospects are either here already (Jones, Freeman) or are expected to arrive this year or next. The only exception is Williams in 2024. Quite a contrast to the Tigers and White Sox who will have to wait three years for one guy.

When you also consider that the Guardians' current major league roster is the youngest in MLB and is also younger than ALL of the AAA teams, it's kind of mind boggling to think about how the Guardians are poised to take a quantum leap forward and leave the other A.L. Central teams in the dust.

The White Sox seem to be particularly vulnerable, looking at the ages of some of their key players; Cueto 36, Lance Lynn 35, Jake Diekman 35, Joe Kelly 34, Liam Hendricks 33, Yasmani Grandal 33, Jose Abreu 35, Josh Harrison 35, and AJ Pollock 34. Our oldest key player is Jose Ramirez, 29.

The Tigers are in better shape as Miggy, 39, is their only key player over 30. But their only top 100 prospect is three years away.

The Twins are not in bad shape age-wise but they have only one prospect on the way.
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You are forgetting about the fact the Tigers had two top 100 prospects graduate the list this season... while the Twins had one or two that graduated recently... At the end of the day though, Cleveland does have way more top prospects than anyone else in the central with a very young roster already that is competing.
 
No way anybody’s tracking this, but I’m curious what % of guys that were at point ranked in the top 100 pan out.
 
How is it determined whether a player skips AAA or not?
 
The Oi said:
No way anybody’s tracking this, but I’m curious what % of guys that were at point ranked in the top 100 pan out.
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I'm sure there is a legit study out there, but I'd say somewhere around 25-35%. I do know 2 factual numbers.

47% of 1st round pick position players over the 15 years from 2004 to 2018 have either never reached the MLB or produced negative WAR at the MLB level.

38% of 1st round pick pitchers over the over the 15 years from 2004 to 2018 have either never reached the MLB or produced negative WAR at the MLB level.

As you can imagine, those numbers go up as you progress through the draft.
 
BimboColesHair said:
I'm sure there is a legit study out there, but I'd say somewhere around 25-35%. I do know 2 factual numbers.

47% of 1st round pick position players over the last 15 years have either never reached the MLB or produced negative WAR at the MLB level.

38% of 1st round pick pitchers over the last 15 years have either never reached the MLB or produced negative WAR at the MLB level.

As you can imagine, those numbers go up as you progress through the draft.
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Fans could do better.
 

For all the hype Valera gets, was expecting to see something better than an 836 OPS at AA.
 
Wham with the Right Hand said:
That's why I suggested he might be the next to be DFA'd after Reyes, Call, Mercado, Zimmer, etc.

He can't compete with Rosario, Gimenez, Freeman, Arias, and others at 2B/SS. His bat doesn't play as a corner infielder. He doesn't hit for average or power and he doesn't walk. His glove doesn't play at 1B. What is his role on this team going forward?
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Like I stated before, I believe Miller is a good hitter. He demonstrated that throughout his minor league career and at times in Cleveland. He is not a 1B and I think he needs a reboot which isn't uncommon for young players. Would not playing out of position help him? I don't know, but I suspect it would. Having said that, I think you ask a legitimate question. What is his role on this team going forward? I also see truth in you saying "he can't compete with Rosario, Gimenez, Freeman, Arias and others at 2B/SS".

This is what I would like to see from Owen if possible. I'd like to see him get stronger. If he could add 10-15lbs of good muscle weight I believe that it could help him in a couple of different ways. I still believe that Owen is/can be one of the better hitters on this team. He's just not there yet and asking if he ever will be isn't a question without basis IMO.
 
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