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2022 Cleveland Guardians Regular Season Thread

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The Guardians have a "few" (as in not many) potential prospects that might fit this profile.. Here are two.. there are more..

Tim Herrin.. 6'6", 230 # former LHP starter that has been moved to the pen in C-Bus.. His low 90's FB as a starter is playing up in shorter stints. He has a slider/cutter (difficult to tell the difference other than the gun/velo) that couples with his FB.. He has steadily improved his command and control.. more is needed..

Randy LaBaut.. a solid ML pitchers body and strong character traits and the ability to throw strikes and command the baseball..

Are you thinking of someone else? Herrin has never been a starter in Cleveland's system as a pro. He wasn't even much of a starter in college either.
 
Are you thinking of someone else? Herrin has never been a starter in Cleveland's system as a pro. He wasn't even much of a starter in college either.
Herrin as a reliever.. definitely not a starter..
 
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Herrin as a reliever.. definitely not a starter..

I'm aware of the point you are trying to make.

But you described him as a "former LHP starter moved to the pen in C Bus".

That is not Herrin. He had never started a game as a pro until a few weeks ago when he started a bullpen game. He's always been a reliever, albeit a multi-inning guy. So are you thinking of someone else?
 
I'm aware of the point you are trying to make.

But you described him as a "former LHP starter moved to the pen in C Bus".

That is not Herrin. He had never started a game as a pro until a few weeks ago when he started a bullpen game. He's always been a reliever, albeit a multi-inning guy. So are you thinking of someone else?
herrin as a reliever.. there is a golfer named tim herrin, aka Lumpy.. but he's never going to be confused with a pitcher.. starter or otherwise..

If he wasn't a starter ever.. I'm unaware of that.. btw..
 
I do.

I like Misiaszek more as far as LH relievers go though.
good enough fastball that it can be a weapon on its own.. more than enough depth on his slider.. throws strikes. what's not to like?..
 
I've watched several Clippers' games and I really like what I see in Herrin. Even when he is a bit inconsistent. His FB pretty much sits 96-97 with good movement and his slider is filthy.

KS asked what changes Hentges has made in order for him to find success. This might be an oversimplified description, but it's been his ability to control his pitches more. Especially in the zone with his FB. It's that improved control that has hitters chasing his slider that looks like a strike initially and then breaks out of the zone. Herrin looks to be taking a similar path, but I think Herrin's "stuff" is better because he has more natural movement on his FB. Those aren't hard facts, just what seems apparent to me.
 
I do.

I like Misiaszek more as far as LH relievers go though.

Any love for Eli Lingos? Keeps performing, but peripherals are more McCarty like. Also former starter turned RP.

I want two Eli's in the pen.

Would like to see your R5 protection hierarchy for our RP. How would you rank all of Enright, Misiaszek, Mikolajchak, Kelly, Herrin, Lingos, Benton?
 
good enough fastball that it can be a weapon on its own.. more than enough depth on his slider.. throws strikes. what's not to like?..
It doesn't look like he's really throwing strikes though. Over 5 BB/9 in Columbus, did much better in Akron but overall he has had that problem throughout his career. It's always hard to say with minor league pitchers what's actually happening though - maybe he's working on stuff during games and not worried about walks...
 
Hosey is hitting .217 in September. Six extra base hits in 92 at-bats. What is wrong with him?

One thing I noticed is he's hungry for RBI's. When he comes up with RISP he gets ahead in the count and then chases bad pitches. Last night he had a 2-0 count and I knew he would swing at the next pitch no matter where it was and sure enough he chased it. He ended up chasing three pitches out of the zone and striking out. You can see it coming.

I think he has a goal of 130 RBI's or something and is going out of his way for RBI's. He's also fouling off a lot of fastballs in the zone that you'd expect him to square up. It used to be you were taking your life in your hands if you threw Jose a fastball down the middle, but now I see it all the time and he fouls them off, pops them up, or beats them into the ground. He looks like he's lunging at the ball rather than staying balanced and swinging smoothly. Maybe he's trying to get to 30 home runs.

He no longer has to carry the team offensively so he should just relax, forget about his stats, and take whatever the pitcher gives him, even if it's a base on balls.
 
Zack Meisel of The Athletic has a column where Steven Kwan took him through each pitch of the 9-pitch at-bat that ended with a grand slam. Really interesting to see how a hitter thinks as he goes through an at-bat. Kwan was sitting on the fastball every pitch because he knew he couldn't hit the fastball if he was sitting on a breaking ball, but if he was looking for a fastball he could still foul off a breaking ball.

Ironically, he hit a slider for the home run while looking for a fastball, which is what he wanted to hit.

He had three home runs in his first 124 games, then three more in his next 15.

“Early in the year, I was just trying to carve out an identity for myself. I think I bought into that narrative of, ‘This guy doesn’t strike out. He walks a lot. He sees a lot of pitches.’ So I took on that role of, ‘I’m going to foul pitches off. I’m going to spoil pitches. I’m going to hit a single the other way.’ It’s just getting back into my own body and being like, ‘I’m still a good hitter. I can still hit the ball with some power.’ Especially in that scenario. Maybe if it was a 0-0 game, I’m going to try to hit a single the other way. But I knew we had a comfortable lead, so I felt comfortable trying to hit something for a little more power.”


So Kwan has evolved from a "work the count, try for a walk or slap the ball to left" hitter to a more aggressive, fastball hunting, do some damage approach. The result is three home runs in 15 games. That's a 30 home run per year pace. I'm not saying he'll hit 30 next year, but he's hitting .311/.835 in September, so who knows? He could end up being the next Michael Brantley (.298/.795 career) only much better defensively. He may be there already.
 
Tyler Freeman is hitting .310 in September (13-for-42). Twelve of his 13 hits have been singles, but still, he's over .300 with only 6 K's in 42 AB's. He's only walked once, probably due to his ability to put the bat on the ball and pitchers not being afraid to pitch to him.

I'd like to see him playing almost every day in the last eight games. He can alternate filling in for Hosey, Amed, and Andres. I've seen enough of Owen Miller for this year.
 
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