2023-24 Season | Game #13 | Cavs @ Sixers | Nov. 21, 2023 | 7:30 p.m. | TNT

[CavsKermit]

Cavs can offer him the most. He will be tradeable even when he resigns. He is that good.

Agreed. Plus, if I'm Mitchell, I'm watching the last two games and asking whether I want to be the guy, or whether I want a bucket of rings.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

How was Maxey with Wade on him? Not how much did Maxey score against the Cavs, but with Wade on him? How was Grant? How was Cade? How was MPJ?

How have the Cavs rebounded with Wade starting? What's our record with him starting?

I'm not saying Wade is the reason we've won the last four, but we clearly make it far more difficult for the opposing team to run the high PNR against us. We clearly rebound better as a team with him in the game. The hate he gets here isn't deserved.

It's not hate, at least not coming from me.

I think he's a useful rotational player. However, I think the idea that someone as offensively challenged as he is should be starting at the 3 alongside Allen and Mobley for any reason other than a plague of injuries is nuts.

If our 4/5 combo was an offensive powerhouse, then maybe you could go with a Wade-ish defensive specialist at the 3. But they're not.

We were minus 12 with him on the floor and that's not a coincidence. He may have been the best option based on who else is available right now, but it is not a desirable situation long-term.

 

[natedagg]

Although he had a good game, my least favorite play of the game was Mobley taking it to the hoop in transition, having a wide open lane, then kicking it out and having it stolen from someone who knew he wouldn’t actually take it in during that high stakes moment.

Like he did all of the hard work, the skills were there, and he wimped out. Teachable moment on film.

Great game otherwise. Just a savage protecting the rim. It was the kind of play that in 2 years he will be embarrassed to watch on film.

 

[natedagg]

Cavs can offer him the most. He will be tradeable even when he resigns. He is that good.

I love DM, but an extension at AAV of $57M is a sure fire way *for this team* to torch our championship chances.

 

[CommD]

I'm fine going forward with Mitchell, but there should be a deal available with Brooklyn, in DM's home town and with the talent on the roster to satisfy CLE. If Mitchell does not extend... Pull the Trigger!

 

[Comeback kid]

It's not hate, at least not coming from me.

I think he's a useful rotational player. However, I think the idea that someone as offensively challenged as he is should be starting at the 3 alongside Allen and Mobley for any reason other than a plague of injuries is nuts.

If our 4/5 combo was an offensive powerhouse, then maybe you could go with a Wade-ish defensive specialist at the 3. But they're not.

We were minus 12 with him on the floor and that's not a coincidence. He may have been the best option based on who else is available right now, but it is not a desirable situation long-term.

Crickets on the +25 against the NBA champs though!… And Dean had to play 21 minutes in the 2nd half for defense because Maxey and Embiid were on the floor so long…. And Dean is playing on an ankle sprain unlike a few of his teammates who seem not to want to do that.

 

[2 For The Brew]

@2 For The Brew is really enjoying his free nuggies right now…….or his wife made him sleep on the couch.

Just got home actually. After the game I decided to do a wife swap. @The Oi

Wife agreed to let me avoid the couch in exchange for my five Chick-Fil-A nuggets.

Thank you TT for missing those throws so I get a good night’s sleep.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Back to back really impressive wins against two of the top five teams in the game. If not for Strus' flagrant foul which cost us two points we win in regulation.

Everybody contributed. I still think Allen and Mobley are weak and lack athleticism and shooting ability, but there's a ton of length and skill. Allen had a nice line of 26 points and 13 boards, but he could have had a lot more points if he could finish stronger at the rim.

Mobley was 18 and 12, and he and Allen combined to go 8-for-8 from the line, which was huge in a game that went to OT.

Garland missed 15 shots but had 32 points, 8 assists, and 3 steals. And for the second straight game, Craig Porter Jr showed that he has a future on this team. Porter was a +21 in 27 minutes with 12 points, 9 assists, and 3 boards.

The Cavs won the rebounding battle 56-44, perhaps because Dean Wade is getting more minutes and Strus is a very good rebounder for his size.

To beat the 10-3 Sixers on their home court without Mitchell and LeVert is extremely encouraging. The Cavs are now 7-3 since starting 1-3.

 

[CavsKermit]

It's not hate, at least not coming from me.

I think he's a useful rotational player. However, I think the idea that someone as offensively challenged as he is should be starting at the 3 alongside Allen and Mobley for any reason other than a plague of injuries is nuts.

If our 4/5 combo was an offensive powerhouse, then maybe you could go with a Wade-ish defensive specialist at the 3. But they're not.

We were minus 12 with him on the floor and that's not a coincidence. He may have been the best option based on who else is available right now, but it is not a desirable situation long-term.

In a game like tonight, it could very well be a coincidence. For instance, CPJ isn't going to normally goinng to play with Garland and Strus at SF when Wade has a seat. The Sixers going small plus 1-3 allowed that. For every shot Wade missed, he got two rebounds. Also, fans are underrating just how valuable blowing up what the other team wants to do is. It's precisely why opposing teams try so hard to shut down Garland.

 

[Tlyons]

We just did, and we can do it again, especially because Wade can rebound and Okoro can't. What people aren't appreciating is that: A) Wade can get hot and then it will be game over for the other team; B) Wade disrupts what the other team wants to do (the high PNR); and C) he's currently being officiated like he stole something.

I'm cool with him playing. Just not as a starter.

And I'm still shaky on him in crunch time.

 

[2 For The Brew]

Awesome win under adversity and just a great game for the very few Cavaliers fans in the building.

The noise and crowd intensity late was intimidating. We were short handed and on paper overmatched. But we came out from the jump playing much better basketball and built that 18 point lead which was cut to nine after three. Held it much of the 4th until the 11-2 run.

One of the hardest things to do in sports is get a big lead early on the road, silence the crowd, and then lose the lead and have the crowd and opponent fired up. Missing so many key players our only chance was to close ranks, bust ass on defense and calmly get scoring back on track. We frustrated the Sixers and crowd all night because we kept making big plays that sucked the oxygen out of Wells Fargo. Garland in particular demoralized them but a shout-out to Jarrett and Evan for taking it to Embiid and Wade for chasing Maxey all over the court and denying him space.

We showed poise, grit, energy, heart and determination. I thought once the Sixers went up on us we were dead but we lived up to our motto of “We’ll never surrender, no way, ain’t no way never surrender.”

We’ve busted Draymond’s balls, Jedi mind tricked him into a second tech, baited Jokic into a 4th and 5th fouls to get him out and now we’ve taken down Joel in Philly while shorthanded. Fucking impressive.

Wife just admitted Sixers did not deserve to win. Cavaliers did. Good for them.

Season is just getting rolling. Buckle up Cavalier fans. We’ve got a squad!

 

[2 For The Brew]

Shaq: Philly didn’t respect the Cavaliers because they were shorthanded and it cost them.

Charles: Hopes the Cavaliers learned a lesson. The big men are better offensive players than people think but the guard-oriented offense shuts them out. It turns Allen into a “floater” - someone who doesn’t get points and floats away from the game. Nobody wants to just rebound and play defense and run up and down the court - they want to score. So the coaches needs to insist the big men get more shots.

Charles to Shaq: You may be good looking in South Africa but you’re ugly in Atlanta.

Only Charles can get away with a comment like that.

But for his Cavaliers comment - maybe we’re all looking at this wrong. There’s no reason Mitchell can’t make adjustments to his game to fit in so he should b3 asked to do so. And if he can’t or won’t then he might have to go. Bu5vlets not assume he can’t make adjustments.

I think we have a lot of talent on the team and can adjust to fit different opponents but it will take time to figure it all out. Pressure is on not just JBB but many of the players.

 

[bushwick_bill]

 

[MirORich]

To beat the 10-3 Sixers on their home court without Mitchell and LeVert is extremely encouraging. The Cavs are now 7-3 since starting 1-3.

Don’t forget Okoro.

Throwing LeVert. Okoro, and Wade all on Maxey, with no Harden or Oubre as an outlet, could be a key approach if we face then again

 

[MirORich]

In the final two Cavs buckets, Porter went head on into Joel Embiid and won both times.

The contact absorbing hard earned layup from this clip and then the right at Embiid and the no look dime to Allen for the 8 foot push shot

So pissed I can’t replay this game on league pass