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2023 Cleveland Guardians Season Thread

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I watched a bit of the Braves game today. Acuna singles in the 1st. On the 1st throw over from Corbin, he gets back easily. On the 2nd throw, he was starting to go but scrambled back because the 1B was too far off the bag. After that he jumped the gun on the 3rd throw (1st pirch) but Acuna stumbled and got back. He then easily stole 2B on the next pitch with a running start. With no one else on base and a fast guy, you have to throw over and risk the balk since you have almost zero chance of a caught stealing. You get a guy or two on the 3rd throw and they likely won't cheat on the steal attempt.
 
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Fangraphs with an excellent column on the Gimenez contract. Looks like the Guardians may have gotten another steal, although not on the level of the 5-year, $26 million contract Jose is finishing up.

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Andrés Giménez Is the Latest Guardian to Sign a Long-Term Extension

The second baseman cashes in after a standout season in which he made the All-Star team and won a Gold Glove.
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Giménez’s performance included a few areas of concern, notably a 40.8% chase rate, 6.1% walk rate, and Statcast contact numbers (87.8 mph average exit velocity, 6.2% barrel rate, 37.6% hard-hit rate) that placed only in the 29th–36th percentiles. Thanks in part to his 94th-percentile speed, he was nonetheless one of the majors’ most productive hitters on groundballs, ranking among the top half-dozen in both batting average and wRC+...

By the way, Jose was tied for 7th in wRC+ on ground balls.

Fangraphs also pointed out that in terms of WAR Gimenez's 2022 season was tied for 5th among 23-year-olds of the past decade. The six best were: Trout 9.3, Betts 8.2, Ballinger 7.7, Machado, 6.2, Bryant, Lindor, and Gimenez 6.1. Jose Ramirez was 10th at 5.3.

Great job by the Guardians to lock him up for six more years.
 
sportscoach said:
Sad part we are still older than last year... I wonder what our AAA team's age was since our MLB last season was younger than our AAA team lol
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Our AAA team was younger than our MLB team. At one point and a good time chunk our MLB team was younger than everyone else’s AAA team besides ours but at some point that changed with iirc the Pirates AAA team becoming younger than the Guards.
 
FFRva said:
Our AAA team was younger than our MLB team. At one point and a good time chunk our MLB team was younger than everyone else’s AAA team besides ours but at some point that changed with iirc the Pirates AAA team becoming younger than the Guards.
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Actually at the mid point of the season our MLB team was younger than our AAA team as well...

Now once all the promotions of the end of the 40 man happened they got younger, but they didn't start off the season that way lol
 
CalBuckeyeRob said:
I watched a bit of the Braves game today. Acuna singles in the 1st. On the 1st throw over from Corbin, he gets back easily. On the 2nd throw, he was starting to go but scrambled back because the 1B was too far off the bag. After that he jumped the gun on the 3rd pitch but stumbled and got back. He then easily stole 2B on the next pitch with a running start. With no one else on base and a fast guy, you have to throw over and risk the balk since you have almost zero chance of a caught stealing. You get a guy or two on the 3rd throw and they likely won't cheat on the steal attempt.
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Artificially inflating stolen bases is BS and just pissing on all the guys that were good at it in the past. The larger bases are stupid too.

I'm not losing any sleep over it, but I don't see the point.
 
CDAV45 said:
Artificially inflating stolen bases is BS and just pissing on all the guys that were good at it in the past. The larger bases are stupid too.

I'm not losing any sleep over it, but I don't see the point.
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The surveys said fans wanted to see more stuff like Stolen bases so they found a way to get more lol
 
I thought you were talking about going in. With all the call-ups and Bryan Shaw dipping that’s what happens.
 
sportscoach said:
The surveys said fans wanted to see more stuff like Stolen bases so they found a way to get more lol
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Where did the survey occur, a retirement home? I don't buy for one second that the majority of MLB fans give a shit about that. You know exactly what the common, younger fan wants to see and it's a large factor in selling out 455 in a row.
 
CDAV45 said:
Where did the survey occur, a retirement home? I don't buy for one second that the majority of MLB fans give a shit about that. You know exactly what the common, younger fan wants to see and it's a large factor in selling out 455 in a row.
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Actually I enjoy hits, stolen bases etc more than I do HRs...

Younger fans want to see more constant action and if guys are getting on base a lot more and guys are attempting to steal way more often, then it's actually more on the positive side... the faster pace and more action is what the fans wanted hence why the rule changes...
 
sportscoach said:
Actually I enjoy hits, stolen bases etc more than I do HRs...

Younger fans want to see more constant action and if guys are getting on base a lot more and guys are attempting to steal way more often, then it's actually more on the positive side... the faster pace and more action is what the fans wanted hence why the rule changes...
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No they don't want to see "more constant action". They want to see demonstrative hits and the excitement generated from those. In the decades of watching baseball with folks of all kinds in the many games I've been to, not once have I ever heard a complaint about the length of a regular 9 inning game. This is nothing but a means to try and level the playing field between the teams that can afford to fill their lineups with sluggers and the teams that can't. It's about parity and nothing more. They won't get a f'n increase of a single fan because of these new rules.

By the way, there's nothing wrong with hits and stolen bases. At no time in history has either of those been frowned upon. They aren't as productive or entertaining as HR's, but they are certainly needed in the game. Now the stolen bases are going to be artificially inflated and likely dramatically so. I think it will take from the integrity of the game, but that's just me.
 
CDAV45 said:
No they don't want to see "more constant action". They want to see demonstrative hits and the excitement generated from those. In the decades of watching baseball with folks of all kinds in the many games I've been to, not once have I ever heard a complaint about the length of a regular 9 inning game. This is nothing but a means to try and level the playing field between the teams that can afford to fill their lineups with sluggers and the teams that can't. It's about parity and nothing more. They won't get a f'n increase of a single fan because of these new rules.

By the way, there's nothing wrong with hits and stolen bases. At no time in history has either of those been frowned upon. They aren't as productive or entertaining as HR's, but they are certainly needed in the game. Now the stolen bases are going to be artificially inflated and likely dramatically so. I think it will take from the integrity of the game, but that's just me.
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Three outcome baseball is what was turning the younger crowds away... HRs, SOs or BBs doesn't excite the crowds. They want to see hits and lots of them... They want to see offense and people on the bases. HRs are nice but they are too few to really keep the attention of the younger groups in stereotyping...
 
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