2023 Guardians Offseason Thread!

[Real Deal]

8 year contract LoL and not even an All-Star performer. Baseball is fucking wild. Meme contract.

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

The issue is last year at this time Gimenez would have been grouped in with the fungible, tradeable, MIFs. Although we have a lot of them, and we fans may view them as more or less fungible, somehow I doubt the Guardians' brain trust views them that way. And, if a trade partner happens to rank them the same way we do, we have a problem, and the "surplus" is irrelevant.

You can't only expect to trade guys that you think rank the lowest on your list as a team. The other team might just get a real good player in return. If you have a bunch of MIFs in the pipeline you have a chance to trade quality and still keep quality.

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

8 year contract LoL and not even an All-Star performer. Baseball is fucking wild. Meme contract.

With the way this is going, Jose Ramirez would have gotten insane money in a year. These payments are making it really hard to buy out free agency years unless you give them the 8-10 year deal as a rookie. Just not sure how you can really play for under $125 million in payroll.

 

[Real Deal]

With the way this is going, Jose Ramirez would have gotten insane money in a year. These payments are making it really hard to buy out free agency years unless you give them the 8-10 year deal as a rookie. Just not sure how you can really play for under $125 million in payroll.

Imagine a Kwan or Andres contract. Those are really the 8 year candidates. I don't like that baseball is adapting to the inflation shit. Dolan's most likely don't like it neither.

 

[MirORich]

 

[daddywags]

You can't only expect to trade guys that you think rank the lowest on your list as a team. The other team might just get a real good player in return. If you have a bunch of MIFs in the pipeline you have a chance to trade quality and still keep quality.

That's true. I guess I'm just saying that "quality" is a relative concept.

 

[MadThinker88]

I believe the story was on MLB Network last night that a $20M a year deal for Nimmo with the NYMets would end up being actually $38M per year due to luxury tax penalties....

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

That's true. I guess I'm just saying that "quality" is a relative concept.

Every prospect is potential quality until they prove it is real. But the Mets could trade Rosario and Gimenez because they were getting Lindor. Mets got the guy they wanted and Cleveland got guys that can actually produce in return. Cleveland needed low priced replacements and got them. Money is no object for the Mets so they got the proven star. If trading minor league players doesn't hurt at the time of the deal, then you probably think you have a bunch of sh*t prospects which is not a good thing.

 

[DCTribefan]

With the way this is going, Jose Ramirez would have gotten insane money in a year. These payments are making it really hard to buy out free agency years unless you give them the 8-10 year deal as a rookie. Just not sure how you can really play for under $125 million in payroll.

Makes extending Bieber an even more remote possibility.

 

[CBBI]

Yeah 20 million a year for Nimmo is going to be gross.

Like one of the worst contracts in the MLB in 2-3 years gross.

He was really good last year. 5.4 fWAR which was 27th best in all of baseball and 5th among outfielders.

 

[Criznit]

Imagine a Kwan or Andres contract. Those are really the 8 year candidates. I don't like that baseball is adapting to the inflation shit. Dolan's most likely don't like it neither.

Yeah - fair market for Gimenez and TMac in particular might already be out of reach..

Lock up Bo Naylor NOW!!!! Mostly kidding, but.

 

[DCTribefan]

Yeah - fair market for Gimenez and TMac in particular might already be out of reach..

Lock up Bo Naylor NOW!!!! Mostly kidding, but.

Actually, you’ve identified the two most important extension candidates: T-Mac and Andres.

 

[Criznit]

I wonder how much being in the same division hinders the Astro's pursuit of Murphy. I mean if I am the A's/A's fan the idea of trading him to a divisional rival wouldn't be appealing and if it was, a price-tag with a serious premium. Seems it should narrow his market. But hey if the A's do trade Murphy to the Astro's both teams deserve it to backfire.

I'd be super pissed if we traded someone with 3 years control to anybody in our division. Wouldn't care what our record was.

The Astro's are out on Murphy IMO, they could make a run at Jansen/Blue Jays here pretty quick

 

[Funkball2]

Yeah - fair market for Gimenez and TMac in particular might already be out of reach..

Lock up Bo Naylor NOW!!!! Mostly kidding, but.

I think you are actually right, but kwan is the guy the FO might be looking at and going, “shite, we may have to get this done now.”

 

[Criznit]

And all the sudden Myles Straw's extension is turning into a bargain right before our eyes...