2023 Season | Series #32 | Phillies @ Guardians | July 21-23, 2023

[sportscoach]

By spot, do you mean the backup C spot he currently occupies?

If so, the answer is Fry.

I meant Gallagher's on the actual roster... If we don't keep Gallagher who else does he want to see there?

 

[Gson]

Who would you rather have in Gallagher's spot?

Anyone who:

-can hit better than a buck forty three...
-can throw the ball to the base a base stealer is running to.. usually in the air..
-can call a pitch sequence that gives the hitters fits..
-can put the lumber to use in an efficient & effective way..
-can tell the difference between a cup of coffee and a catcher's cup..

Brian Lavastida can.... Sandy Leon can.. Neither one of these two guys are the answer.. but what we have now is dreadful to the point of dire desperation...

Baseball can be a cruel business.. Cam's time in it as a member of the Cleveland Guardians needs to end... or he has to get a LOT better in a very short time...

 

[KilgoreTrout]

A lack of hustle by a pitcher (Hentges).. costs a run..

A lack of seriousness by a 1B (Josh Bell).. costs a run..

The lack of attention to fundamentals just cost the Guardians 2 runs and the lead..

Pretty sad..tbh...

With Hentges pitching like crap, a lack of hustle is even more inexcusable than it USUALLY is. He needs to do everything he can to get outs, and he’s not.

 

[BimboColesHair]

I meant Gallagher's on the actual roster... If we don't keep Gallagher who else does he want to see there?

It doesn’t even matter who the other person called up is.

The main thing that needs to happen is Bo needs to catch at least 5 games a week between now and the end of the season. You need to evaluate and develop Bo. Like they’re doing with Freeman and Arias, playing him 2 or 3 times a week isn’t going to be enough to make you feel good about going into 2024 with him as your primary C. There will still be a ton of unknowns if you keep playing him like we have been and unknowns make front offices uncomfortable.

Gallagher is a crutch that is not allowing that to happen. The sooner he is gone the better.

 

[sportscoach]

It doesn’t even matter who the other person called up is.

The main thing that needs to happen is Bo needs to catch at least 5 games a week between now and the end of the season. You need to evaluate and develop Bo. Like they’re doing with Freeman and Arias, playing him 2 or 3 times a week isn’t going to be enough to make you feel good about going into 2024 with him as your primary C. There will still be a ton of unknowns if you keep playing him like we have been and unknowns make front offices uncomfortable.

Gallagher is a crutch that is not allowing that to happen. The sooner he is gone the better.

It sounds like Francona prefers to play the more experienced Gallagher more often than you would like?

I mean, on paper, only give Gallagher the day games for the rest of the season? I am guessing though the veteran SPs would rather have Gallagher be their catcher?

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

It sounds like Francona prefers to play the more experienced Gallagher more often than you would like?

I mean, on paper, only give Gallagher the day games for the rest of the season? I am guessing though the veteran SPs would rather have Gallagher be their catcher?

I believe it's much simpler. Francona doesn't prioritize 2024 and beyond.

He thinks that playing the known-quantity veteran gives us the best chance of winning in 2023. Now, you can argue whether that's correct or not, but that discussion still exists outside of this point.

If you say "Hey, we need to see more of these guys so we know what to do in the offseason in order to give you the best chance to win in 2024" then you're probably not getting anywhere because 2024 isn't his top priority. He'll hear that and throw it in the trash bin because it doesn't hold more worth than his status quo of "win games this year"

I'm willing to bet that if you had a talk with him in April and said "Hey, we feel that if you give this young guy a full year of playing time, he's going to be better than Amed by the time the playoffs come around" he'd still dismiss that--because he wants to win games in the present and let the chips fall where they may in the future.

 

[Gson]

I believe it's much simpler. Francona doesn't prioritize 2024 and beyond.

He thinks that playing the known-quantity veteran gives us the best chance of winning in 2023. Now, you can argue whether that's correct or not, but that discussion still exists outside of this point.

If you say "Hey, we need to see more of these guys so we know what to do in the offseason in order to give you the best chance to win in 2024" then you're probably not getting anywhere because 2024 isn't his top priority. He'll hear that and throw it in the trash bin because it doesn't hold more worth than his status quo of "win games this year"

I'm willing to bet that if you had a talk with him in April and said "Hey, we feel that if you give this young guy a full year of playing time, he's going to be better than Amed by the time the playoffs come around" he'd still dismiss that--because he wants to win games in the present and let the chips fall where they may in the future.

worry about tomorrow... tomorrow..

Another factor.. is the Gallagher's battery mate.. It would not shock ANYONE to realize that Shane Bieber prefers to throw to/with Gallagher.. about 45 seconds in:


The partnership between batterymates shall not be abridged...