• Changing RCF's index page, please click on "Forums" to access the forums.

2024 Cleveland Browns Off-Season Thread

Do Not Sell My Personal Information
Can confirm in Pittsburgh the men all spend the entire draft in the pile together every year instead of watching.

They leave the streets filled with dip spit, crushed Coors Light cans, shredded flannel, and spent shell casings. And the area smells like bleach, shiitake mushrooms, and onion sweat for weeks.
 
What does Cleveland even have to offer? Burkley? Brook park is attractive because they have land to offer. Downtown doesn’t really have any available space large enough for the stadium. They’d have to tear down the old one if they wanted to stay.

The tax base is what the city of Cleveland has to offer over Brookpark. The Haslams have a ton of money but it's always better to use other people's money than your own. They are going to have to sink more of their own money into Brookpark. There is always risk with that.

I think a lot of people assume they want to take on a big project like the Brookpark project but they don't really have the background in commercial real estate to have this kind of venture be right in their wheelhouse. The bigger the scope of the stadium and the surrounding development is, the more risk it is for the Haslams. Good investment is about diversification and doing stuff you know, I'm not sure the Brookpark location is really that for the Haslams.
 
What a junk caption for that tweet.

The stadium negotiation game is a loooong drawn out process that's nowhere near its conclusion yet. These bozos need to stop spreading misleading messaging like this, suggesting things are even close to being decided yet.

Just look to the Chicago back and forth between Arlington Heights and downtown for an example of how convoluted these processes get.
Chicago isn't a good example. The Bears desperately want that lakefront property, and the city doesn't want to give it to them.

The Browns have a spot, have the money, and the support of what seems to be the state. And with the city not really having a viable alternative....
 
The tax base is what the city of Cleveland has to offer over Brookpark. The Haslams have a ton of money but it's always better to use other people's money than your own. They are going to have to sink more of their own money into Brookpark. There is always risk with that.

I think a lot of people assume they want to take on a big project like the Brookpark project but they don't really have the background in commercial real estate to have this kind of venture be right in their wheelhouse. The bigger the scope of the stadium and the surrounding development is, the more risk it is for the Haslams. Good investment is about diversification and doing stuff you know, I'm not sure the Brookpark location is really that for the Haslams.
I heard the Haslam’s want to use their extensive trucking network to truck people to the games.

Don’t knock it until you have been in the bed of an 18 wheeler w a 720P projector showing Reuben Droughns highlights while eating Mr. Hero (he/they).

Brookpark. Somehow your tax dollars or tax concessions, somehow to benefit Mr. Hero. Bullish.
 
Crazy thing is even had we kept the picks and not traded for Watson, the Browns might not’ve been able to truly address the QB position until this year anyway. The draft we traded for Watson was the Kenny Pickett year and all the reasonable vet guys had been traded at that point.

Last year the solution would’ve been Rodgers who was likely always destined for NY. Then the other options would’ve been Lance and maybe Levis or Richardson.

Who knows what else we could’ve done with the other picks and cap space, but outside of making Brissett the starter the Browns are likely taking a QB in this years draft and hoping they workout.

Unless they'd have kept Baker.
 
Folks have to remember that the Brook Park plan is to avoid staying at the lakefront location. The Browns want the city to use imminent domain to claim office buildings on the eastern side of downtown to clear a spot for the stadium/ballpark village thing. The Browns DONT want the current location, because if they did, they would find a way to foot the extra cost to build the dome there. That's why the team is essentially threatening to move for 3 years if they use the current site.
 
What does Cleveland even have to offer? Burkley? Brook park is attractive because they have land to offer. Downtown doesn’t really have any available space large enough for the stadium. They’d have to tear down the old one if they wanted to stay.
Perhaps we could offer them the vacant space between your ears?

(Kidding. I think.)

Brook Park isn't attractive. It's a ploy. If the team moves there, I'll eat a hat.
 
Folks have to remember that the Brook Park plan is to avoid staying at the lakefront location. The Browns want the city to use imminent domain to claim office buildings on the eastern side of downtown to clear a spot for the stadium/ballpark village thing. The Browns DONT want the current location, because if they did, they would find a way to foot the extra cost to build the dome there. That's why the team is essentially threatening to move for 3 years if they use the current site.
They wanted where Noble Beast and down is, not where the office buildings are.
 
Great depth piece. 28 year old former 4th rounder who has started 32 games and played in 50 games in a 6 year career, Grades out pretty good at PFF too

He started 16 games at center the year the Rams won the Super Bowl, graded out really well on PFF, and was a Pro Bowler.

That earned him a 3 year, 24M extension the following spring.

But then he had a really poor and injury plagued 2022 season (just 5 games played) and was, perhaps surprisingly given his contract, beat out in camp for the starting center job in 2023.
 

Rubber Rim Job Podcast Video

Episode 3-15: "Cavs Survive and Advance"

Rubber Rim Job Podcast Spotify

Episode 3:15: Cavs Survive and Advance
Top