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With the "pitching pandemic" going on are there any teams willing to trade major league or major league ready starters? At the rate starters are dropping I kind of doubt it.

One guy I might enquire about is the A's Paul Blackburn. So far the 31-year-old has started three games and pitched 19.1 scoreless innings with a WHIP of 0.72. Now I don't feel so bad about him shutting us out for seven innings; he did the same thing to the next two teams he faced.

Blackburn is making just $3.5 million this year and will go to arbitration next year, so he is under control for one more season.

The A's aren't going anywhere this year and Fangraphs ranked their farm system 28th last year. I would send them a couple of prospects for Blackburn before somebody else nabs him.
There isn't any significant different in injury rates this year, it's just that there is a higher percentage of stars/well known pitchers that are hurt. At this point, I don't think teams are going to be changing how they view trading for/away pitching.
 
A's aren't trading Blackburn anytime soon, that would be foolhardy.. Sure make them a ridiculous offer and they may bite. Otherwise, the soonest he will be available is around the trade deadline. Also they may wait until the off-season if they do not get an offer they fancy.

He's their best trade chip so they'll let him keep building value IMO.
seems like the A's take either a ridiculous over pay to make a deal.. or the exact opposite.. a MASSIVE under pay.. I don't get it..
 
If anyone is offering a decent prospect or two for Blackburn then he should be traded now. Nothing in his history remotely suggests he is better than a 4.25+ ERA pitcher.
 
I am seeing what you are proposing and it's always cheap young lotto ticket arms when what we need is innings and dependability. As far as I am concerned if they are young and available there is a reason and they won't fit our need. I have nothing against the idea of trading any particular player but if we're trading a guy we can't depend on and getting back guys we can't depend on, what's the point. In a season where we are somehow leading despite having a sketchy rotation, I think we should be shoring up that rotation.
I guess it is in the eye of the beholder and I readily admit that I have a lot of confidence in talented prospects like Hurt and Ryan. I think Hurt has already demonstrated his ability at the highest level and Ryan is every bit as good as he is. In my eyes, Hurt and Ryan are vastly better than Curry, Carrasco, Allen and McKenzie(right now). I understand what you're saying though KS.

Edited to add that I'm taking longevity into account as well. I'm not looking to add a short term option like Blackburn. I don't think we're quite there yet and I'd rather gather as much talent as possible.
 
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If anyone is offering a decent prospect or two for Blackburn then he should be traded now. Nothing in his history remotely suggests he is better than a 4.25+ ERA pitcher.
Not to mention once he starts regressing to his career averages or even gets hurt there goes his value. I don't see how his trade value is going to increase unless he keeps throwing 6-7 inning shutouts and more starters on contenders go down.

I'm thinking Ralphy Velasquez. First round pick last year, 6th ranked prospect in our system by Fangraphs, currently hitting .385/1.144 in A ball. He's 18 so he should be about ready by the time they move to Vegas in 2028.

Ralphy was a catcher in high school but from reports I've seen he's only playing first base now. If we don't extend Josh Naylor we have Manzardo. Also, Arias can play first base.

With the A's not expecting to actually start playing in Las Vegas until 2028 and wanting to make a big splash upon arrival it seems to me they should try to accumulate as many top end prospects as possible who are 3-4 years out.

Just throwing it out there. Maybe we're fine with Williams, Bibee, Allen, McKenzie, and Cookie. Curry looked good in his one start. Cookie has improved a little in each start. Cantillo will be back in another month or so, although he's unproven. Maybe Nikhazy in Akron can help out (10 innings, 1 hit, no runs, 4 walks, 13 K's).

Maybe Triston stays healthy and his velo has an uptick. Maybe we're fine. But if anybody else goes down I would explore a deal for Blackburn, and the A's should be looking for high upside teenagers.
 
Not to mention once he starts regressing to his career averages or even gets hurt there goes his value. I don't see how his trade value is going to increase unless he keeps throwing 6-7 inning shutouts and more starters on contenders go down.

I'm thinking Ralphy Velasquez. First round pick last year, 6th ranked prospect in our system by Fangraphs, currently hitting .385/1.144 in A ball. He's 18 so he should be about ready by the time they move to Vegas in 2028.

Ralphy was a catcher in high school but from reports I've seen he's only playing first base now. If we don't extend Josh Naylor we have Manzardo. Also, Arias can play first base.

With the A's not expecting to actually start playing in Las Vegas until 2028 and wanting to make a big splash upon arrival it seems to me they should try to accumulate as many top end prospects as possible who are 3-4 years out.

Just throwing it out there. Maybe we're fine with Williams, Bibee, Allen, McKenzie, and Cookie. Curry looked good in his one start. Cookie has improved a little in each start. Cantillo will be back in another month or so, although he's unproven. Maybe Nikhazy in Akron can help out (10 innings, 1 hit, no runs, 4 walks, 13 K's).

Maybe Triston stays healthy and his velo has an uptick. Maybe we're fine. But if anybody else goes down I would explore a deal for Blackburn, and the A's should be looking for high upside teenagers.
I think Lively might produce similar numbers to Blackburn. But the A's should move him before he turns back into a pumpkin.
 
Not to mention once he starts regressing to his career averages or even gets hurt there goes his value. I don't see how his trade value is going to increase unless he keeps throwing 6-7 inning shutouts and more starters on contenders go down.

I'm thinking Ralphy Velasquez. First round pick last year, 6th ranked prospect in our system by Fangraphs, currently hitting .385/1.144 in A ball. He's 18 so he should be about ready by the time they move to Vegas in 2028.

Ralphy was a catcher in high school but from reports I've seen he's only playing first base now. If we don't extend Josh Naylor we have Manzardo. Also, Arias can play first base.

With the A's not expecting to actually start playing in Las Vegas until 2028 and wanting to make a big splash upon arrival it seems to me they should try to accumulate as many top end prospects as possible who are 3-4 years out.

Just throwing it out there. Maybe we're fine with Williams, Bibee, Allen, McKenzie, and Cookie. Curry looked good in his one start. Cookie has improved a little in each start. Cantillo will be back in another month or so, although he's unproven. Maybe Nikhazy in Akron can help out (10 innings, 1 hit, no runs, 4 walks, 13 K's).

Maybe Triston stays healthy and his velo has an uptick. Maybe we're fine. But if anybody else goes down I would explore a deal for Blackburn, and the A's should be looking for high upside teenagers.
Blackburn isn't going to return anyone's top 10 prospect, so why are we giving one of ours ?
 
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Also this is the second time you've asked. Move on.
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He is now on vacation for three months.

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Blackburn isn't going to return anyone's top 10 prospect, so why are we giving one of ours ?

Well A's are like impossible to predict and Grover on BTV (Aka the main chatty A's fan who is a very competent poster) believes they would likely want Cantillo plus something for Blackburn...
 
Blackburn isn't going to return anyone's top 10 prospect, so why are we giving one of ours ?
Um - we got a top 100 prospect for a year and a half of Civale... Which is again why Oakland will NOT trade Blackburn for anything less than a haul at this time. Oakland will roll the dice on a bidding war, or give it another go this off-season/2025 deadline.

@Wham with the Right Hand... Velazquez for Blackburn? No thanks - I don't want to risk a Junior Caminero 2.0 situation.

As of now Will Dion would be what I would offer for Blackburn, and I probably wouldn't pull the trigger if that was somehow enough.

Edit. I was incorrect, Civale had 2.5 years left when traded.
 
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