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2024 Season | Series #9 | Guardians @ Braves | April 26-28, 2024
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I loved how Vogt handled the Gaddis question in the presser, too ….”He got hit” “He’s been lights out for us” “Those were some good bats” and ”He’ll be back out there tomorrow “…..Next !
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The Sandman looks so much younger in street clothes than he does in his uniform..lol
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Still undefeated in extras!
Bibee was incredible, holding the highest scoring team in baseball to 2 hits and no runs in 7 innings with 9 k's. Best start of the year for the Guardians by far, considering the result and the opponent.
Barlow was amazing working out of that bases loaded, no out jam. Thanks to the Braves for taking out d'Arnaud and putting in a minor league catcher, who struck out with one out.
Jose ran his way out of an inning ending double play and then stole second, allowing Kwan to steal home for the second run. If we don't get that run in we lose in regulation.
Josh had two RBI's and would have been three if not for two perfect throws to cut down Jose at the plate.
I was really questioning Vogt when he sent Laureano up to pinch hit for Brennan. Laureano is something like 4-for-23 against lefties. Down 0-2 he worked the count even and hit the sac fly that gave us a two-run lead.
Sandlin got the job done in the 11th. Great win for the Guardians to avoid a sweep and give them a chance tomorrow to win yet another series. So proud of these guys.
Bibee was incredible, holding the highest scoring team in baseball to 2 hits and no runs in 7 innings with 9 k's. Best start of the year for the Guardians by far, considering the result and the opponent.
Barlow was amazing working out of that bases loaded, no out jam. Thanks to the Braves for taking out d'Arnaud and putting in a minor league catcher, who struck out with one out.
Jose ran his way out of an inning ending double play and then stole second, allowing Kwan to steal home for the second run. If we don't get that run in we lose in regulation.
Josh had two RBI's and would have been three if not for two perfect throws to cut down Jose at the plate.
I was really questioning Vogt when he sent Laureano up to pinch hit for Brennan. Laureano is something like 4-for-23 against lefties. Down 0-2 he worked the count even and hit the sac fly that gave us a two-run lead.
Sandlin got the job done in the 11th. Great win for the Guardians to avoid a sweep and give them a chance tomorrow to win yet another series. So proud of these guys.
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Game 3 preview:
A win gives the Guardians their 8th series win in nine tries. Ben Lively goes against Bryce Elder, a 24-year-old right-hander who was 12-4 with a 3.81 ERA last year. At the All-Star break he was 7-2 with a 2.97 ERA and was named to the All-Star team. His ERA in the second half was 4.64.
Elder started this season in Triple-A but was called up on April 22 to replace an injured starter. He went 6.2 innings against the Marlins, allowing 8 hits but no runs. Last year he made one start against the Guardians, allowing 2 runs on 7 hits in 6.1 innings, striking out one. Elder is not much of a strikeout pitcher, averaging 6.8 K's per 9 innings.
Steven Kwan is 3-for-4 against Elder while the rest of the current Guardians are 1-for-16.
Ben Lively makes his third start for the Guardians, this time against a team other than the Red Sox. The Braves will pose a bigger challenge as they are averaging a shade under six runs per game against 4.3 for the Red Sox. However, after watching Bibee last night Lively should have some confidence he can keep the Braves from doing too much damage.
In 11.1 innings against the Red Sox Lively allowed just 3 earned runs, and I believe one was on a balk where the umpire claimed he didn't tell them he would be pitching from a windup with a runner on third. The other two were on solo home runs.
With Bieber done for the year, Allen struggling, and Gavin Williams still out the Guardians are in serious need of competent starting pitching. Lively has shown indications he could be that guy. If he can put up another good start this afternoon it would be very big.
Josh Naylor and Andres Gimenez were both in 0-for-12 slumps but each broke out with two hits last night so hopefully they are back on track.
So far the Guardians have one earned run and six hits in 14 innings against the Braves' starters. Let's hope Elder isn't as sharp as Sale and Morton were. Those old guys made the Guardians hitters look very bad.
No game Monday so the entire bullpen should be available.
A win gives the Guardians their 8th series win in nine tries. Ben Lively goes against Bryce Elder, a 24-year-old right-hander who was 12-4 with a 3.81 ERA last year. At the All-Star break he was 7-2 with a 2.97 ERA and was named to the All-Star team. His ERA in the second half was 4.64.
Elder started this season in Triple-A but was called up on April 22 to replace an injured starter. He went 6.2 innings against the Marlins, allowing 8 hits but no runs. Last year he made one start against the Guardians, allowing 2 runs on 7 hits in 6.1 innings, striking out one. Elder is not much of a strikeout pitcher, averaging 6.8 K's per 9 innings.
Steven Kwan is 3-for-4 against Elder while the rest of the current Guardians are 1-for-16.
Ben Lively makes his third start for the Guardians, this time against a team other than the Red Sox. The Braves will pose a bigger challenge as they are averaging a shade under six runs per game against 4.3 for the Red Sox. However, after watching Bibee last night Lively should have some confidence he can keep the Braves from doing too much damage.
In 11.1 innings against the Red Sox Lively allowed just 3 earned runs, and I believe one was on a balk where the umpire claimed he didn't tell them he would be pitching from a windup with a runner on third. The other two were on solo home runs.
With Bieber done for the year, Allen struggling, and Gavin Williams still out the Guardians are in serious need of competent starting pitching. Lively has shown indications he could be that guy. If he can put up another good start this afternoon it would be very big.
Josh Naylor and Andres Gimenez were both in 0-for-12 slumps but each broke out with two hits last night so hopefully they are back on track.
So far the Guardians have one earned run and six hits in 14 innings against the Braves' starters. Let's hope Elder isn't as sharp as Sale and Morton were. Those old guys made the Guardians hitters look very bad.
No game Monday so the entire bullpen should be available.
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That was a great win. Made my day.
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I am so glad. That was the good news I needed, after the Cavs’ collapse.
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12.3 innings of shutout ball before tonight with a ,65 whip. and he hasn't proven anything?
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Tell me the Guardians are good without using stats.
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I get it’s a game thread and people overreact, but the criticism of Vogt over his lineup moves after the start he’s had is just crazy. We’re really going to criticize using Gaddis in the 8th when he had been one of the best relievers in the MLB before today, and had been the setup man with no issues (and no complaining) for over a week before today? Even today, he allowed 2 runs on a ground rule double which hit the line and a pop fly that somehow dropped. Not a great outing by any means, but a couple of different breaks and we view the outing completely differently.
And before anyone forgets, people were complaining about Barlow until the last week with good reason. Bottom line, the bullpen won’t be perfect all year but I don’t see any valid reason why that was bad process. Maybe you yank Gaddis with runners at 2nd and 3rd 1 out, but arguing against him in the 8th inning is results vs process.
And I think Vogt deserves a lot of trust with the way he’s managed to push all the right buttons so far. Even when I think the process is poor, such as PHing Laureano for Brennan in the 11th, so far they’ve been working out.
And before anyone forgets, people were complaining about Barlow until the last week with good reason. Bottom line, the bullpen won’t be perfect all year but I don’t see any valid reason why that was bad process. Maybe you yank Gaddis with runners at 2nd and 3rd 1 out, but arguing against him in the 8th inning is results vs process.
And I think Vogt deserves a lot of trust with the way he’s managed to push all the right buttons so far. Even when I think the process is poor, such as PHing Laureano for Brennan in the 11th, so far they’ve been working out.