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23 Offseason - Other Team Needs and Actions

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Kansas City Royals – 65-97 (#25 FG Farm System)




Royals GM has said they are not going to go heavy into FA market but would like Greinke back. They are at 43 players right now and have adds of Marsh, Taylor, Sikkema possible Easton, Parrish, Dye, Rave, Hernandez. Thus, they have some room to cut guys (probably 7-8) and add during Rule 5 as there is players to cut like Caus, Mills, Speier, Weiss along with others possible like Hearn, Keller, Weaver and Rivero (so even then it is a little hard – shows how Rule 5 may not be as bad as people think).

BTV NTC - Carlos Hernandez, Brad Keller, Anthony Misiewicz, Ryan O’Hearn, Luke Weaver

FG- 35+ starts around 32nd prospect (Comparison – Cle starts 35+ at 40). So not as deep but not too bad (more of a lower ranking in FG as best have been promoted in Melendez and Witt.

Biggest Need – pitching (but can say that about everyone) and up the middle at 2B and CF (3B if they move Witt to SS for Mondesi and put Garcia at 2nd for Lopez). But, they have some candidates coming up in those positions to, so do they just wait and develop? For 2nd and 3rd, they have our Samad Taylor (traded for Joe Smith and now Merrifield). Yet, how would we feel if that was our up and coming player? OF could use some upgrading but they are probably waiting to see how Isbel and Loftin mature.

Who do Guardians want – Of course Melendez but it ain’t happening. I am sure they want to get rid of Dozier but no thank you. Garrett for Sports Coach Loogy will be in final year of contract so will be traded, but Guardians won’t be interested.

Of the two teams, KC and Det, Det can buy their way out of trouble. KC may take the Guardians approach to developing their own. I see KC having a slightly better year but in no means up to Minn, Chi or Guardians level. And, will Detroit add FA this year when they have so far to go to be 500, after bombing on Baez?
 
Texas – 68-94 (#12 FG System)



They currently sit at 39 players with 2 club options for Calhoun ($5.5), Leclerc ($6). Key for them is to also resign Perez to head their staff and see what they do with Plawecki (claimed him from Boston for last 3 games before FA). But, where does Plaw stand with Heim, Garver and Huff? Per FG, they have a crunch coming this year (and would Texas want a Rule 5 guy with such high expectations after last year’s disappointment).

Must-Add Prospects: Cole Winn, Owen White, Dustin Harris, Avery Weems, Luisangel Acuna, Mason Englert, Cody Bradford

Current 40-man Fringe: Nick Snyder, Andy Ibáñez, Steele Walker, Meibrys Viloria, Steven Duggar, Dennis Santana, Kolby Allard, Spencer Howard

Prospects on the Fringe: Fernery Ozuna, Justin Slaten, Blaine Crim, Grant Anderson, Hever Bueno

BTV NTC -- Kolby Allard, Taylor Hearn, Spencer Howard, Brett Martin, Dennis Santana, Jesus Tinoco

Rule 5 – This is getting to the area of teams that want to win and thus may not want to keep a Rule 5 pick even if they are able to draft one.
Biggest needs are OF and pitching (and pitching coach). First article I saw was, are they ever going to develop a pitcher? They have Leiter, Winn and White coming up but will they have patience? They spent a lot for Gray, Semiens and Seager – they are going to want to see results after a disappointing year.

Biggest need - like everyone else, starting pitching -- websites are looking at Rondon and DeGroom for them. Their relievers are in better shape.

What do they have that Guardians want? I always thought Huff could play that C/1B role as a righty for us. But, when you look at his splits, they are pretty well even splits. Garver had killer splits this year (1.025 OPS vs lefties) but will be in the last year of arbitration and he wasn’t all that good overall. If we have to trade Bieber, they have the desperation to do a trade and have a whole bunch of starting pitching prospects that would line up well.
However, they do not have that power righty bat (other than Jung at 3B) that we will want as part of package as well (nor a mid-level catching prospects to pair with Naylor). And, Rangers supposedly signed Plawecki to get inside track on his battery mate Evoldi so they may focus on FA market for pitching.
 
Texas – 68-94 (#12 FG System)...... What do they have that Guardians want? I always thought Huff could play that C/1B role as a righty for us. But, when you look at his splits, they are pretty well even splits. Garver had killer splits this year (1.025 OPS vs lefties) but will be in the last year of arbitration and he wasn’t all that good overall. If we have to trade Bieber, they have the desperation to do a trade and have a whole bunch of starting pitching prospects that would line up well.
However, they do not have that power righty bat (other than Jung at 3B) that we will want as part of package as well (nor a mid-level catching prospects to pair with Naylor). And, Rangers supposedly signed Plawecki to get inside track on his battery mate Evoldi so they may focus on FA market for pitching.
BTW.. thanks for doing these individual team summaries.. Specifically, the editorial finishing paragraph(s) are most entertaining/insightful !!

Huff as the headliner to a Rangers/Guardians deal would be an about the best fit for the Guardians entering the 2023 season. The needs of the Rangers dovetail nicely into both what the Guardians can offer with special consideration for the competitive timing and positional needs of both clubs. There are enough pieces to a potential deal on both sides to make this work.

The addition of Plawecki could be viewed as a forerunner to the "next" backstop with a definitive bent toward defense in the form or either Maile or Hedges.. A conspiracy theorist might even believe this is how Hedgie is going to retain his spot on the Guardians if Maile becomes a trade "sacrifice" from the Guardians to the Rangers as part of a greater deal..

Both clubs have 40 man issues.. and they'er valid.. but, at the end of the day.. lopping off up to the lowest 2 or 4 guys won't really matter much to either club.. just more "much ado about nothing" type mentality..

Guys to target from the Rangers: Sam Huff 10.2 (obviously), Brock Porter 12.8 (perhaps the Rangers BEST pitching prospect, PERIOD) and two "kid" position players that could become unusually good pros: Yeisson Morrobel 6.5 and Anthony Gutierrez 4.0... Names that kill the deal from the Rangers side include any one of their top five (plus Kumar Rocker and Dustin Harris)

Note on Huff: his ML debut and first full season was compromised due to a significant knee injury.. He's fully healthy now..

From the Guardians... this isn't a deal that can/will be satisfied with Plesac, Maile, a bucket of Tito's Double Bubble & a case of David Sun Flower Seeds. A serious return would be in order, at least a couple of highly thought of SP potentials and worth it.. Names that kill the deal from the Guardians side are any one of the top five (plus Cody Morris & Chase De Lauter) on the Guardians' MLB prospect list. Names that could be (& possibly should be) included Tanner Bibee 10.9, Nolan Jones 14.9, Logan Allen 9.4, Gabriel Arias 7.8 (who auditioned as a 1B for the expressed purpose of showing CY from the Rangers that he can play the spot) among several others. This is the kind of deal that requires unusual courage & becomes lore for future reference..

FWIW: A deal like this has about a 1 in 100 chance of ever coming to light/happening.. perhaps not quite as likely...
 
BTW.. thanks for doing these individual team summaries.. Specifically, the editorial finishing paragraph(s) are most entertaining/insightful !!

Huff as the headliner to a Rangers/Guardians deal would be an about the best fit for the Guardians entering the 2023 season. The needs of the Rangers dovetail nicely into both what the Guardians can offer with special consideration for the competitive timing and positional needs of both clubs. There are enough pieces to a potential deal on both sides to make this work.

The addition of Plawecki could be viewed as a forerunner to the "next" backstop with a definitive bent toward defense in the form or either Maile or Hedges.. A conspiracy theorist might even believe this is how Hedgie is going to retain his spot on the Guardians if Maile becomes a trade "sacrifice" from the Guardians to the Rangers as part of a greater deal..

Both clubs have 40 man issues.. and they'er valid.. but, at the end of the day.. lopping off up to the lowest 2 or 4 guys won't really matter much to either club.. just more "much ado about nothing" type mentality..

Guys to target from the Rangers: Sam Huff 10.2 (obviously), Brock Porter 12.8 (perhaps the Rangers BEST pitching prospect, PERIOD) and two "kid" position players that could become unusually good pros: Yeisson Morrobel 6.5 and Anthony Gutierrez 4.0... Names that kill the deal from the Rangers side include any one of their top five (plus Kumar Rocker and Dustin Harris)

Note on Huff: his ML debut and first full season was compromised due to a significant knee injury.. He's fully healthy now..

From the Guardians... this isn't a deal that can/will be satisfied with Plesac, Maile, a bucket of Tito's Double Bubble & a case of David Sun Flower Seeds. A serious return would be in order, at least a couple of highly thought of SP potentials and worth it.. Names that kill the deal from the Guardians side are any one of the top five (plus Cody Morris & Chase De Lauter) on the Guardians' MLB prospect list. Names that could be (& possibly should be) included Tanner Bibee 10.9, Nolan Jones 14.9, Logan Allen 9.4, Gabriel Arias 7.8 (who auditioned as a 1B for the expressed purpose of showing CY from the Rangers that he can play the spot) among several others. This is the kind of deal that requires unusual courage & becomes lore for future reference..

FWIW: A deal like this has about a 1 in 100 chance of ever coming to light/happening.. perhaps not quite as likely...

I wanted Porter as one of the guys with our first round pick. As said, been a fan for Huff for a year now in a trade. At first, it was to have a Lavastida type insurance (hoping one of two will make it). But now, I am backing off as Texas would want that stud pitcher (Bibee level 10.9) in return that I am not willing to give up for 10.2 part-timer for us in Huff anymore. In a year, Naylor should be getting 2/3 of playing time being a lefty vs righty hitters. Thus, Huff is more of the righty vs lefty and his splits are kind of even (thus signifying more of everyday player - which won't happen with Josh at 1B and DH being roving player day off role). If it happens, great but not on my hot list anymore (would do Jones for Huff but they don't have room for Jones).

I would be curious what Texas does with their catchers going forward. Heim settled in for a 2.5 WAR season and Paw would just be a veteran backstop mentor (probably at Garver expense). Yet, where does Huff get time as their infield is set? They may see him as their DH guy over Miller. As with other teams, they may want an upgrade in CF over Taveras. But, would they or us do Straw for Huff. Again, we would only do the trade if Huff becomes an everyday type player for us whether at C/1B/DH filler role.
 
Colorado Rockies – 68-94 (FG#20 System)



When you look at their roster, it screams we need starting pitching. But, reading articles, they need help almost everywhere else as well without the farm system to do it. It was pointed out of the lack of home runs outside of Coors field. They have a .283/.803 at Coors and .225/.621 away from Coors. Just look at Grichuk and his .307/.851 at Coors and .205/.583 away.

Players to add are either at low A+ level like Brito and Bernabel or prospects who lost some shine like Carreras and Doyle.

BTV NTC – Garrett Hampson, Sam Hilliard, Dinelson Lamet, Dom Nunez

With the roster at 38, they have some room for Rule 5 especially needing SP/RP and hard to find FAs (going to Coors) or trades (without a farm system really). To compare our farm systems, Colorado 40 FV ends at 28 on FG, Cleveland ends at 39. Thus, they will go lite on adding prospects of their own to take from others.

Biggest needs -- Decide between a rebuild and retool. They tried to upgrade their OF with Bryant (only 181 Abs) and Grichuk had a .3 WAR (.6 OWar) even with .259 BA and 19 HR – as he had .205 BA and 6 HR away from Coors. With Arizona still improving, they are doomed to be last place again in the West.

What do Guardians Want – Of course we all want Romo, but it ain’t happening. If they are looking for some relief pitchers and we have to give up a Santos, they have 2 right handed CF to blend our prospect system in Montgomery and Beck (Beck and Santos are about same value on BTV of 6.8 vs 5.7 for Santos). Yet, again, they tried fixed their OF with guys we wanted (Bryant and Grinchuk) but I think we moved on now with Oscar breaking through. And, will Rockies trade for guys to help now just to be bottom feeders and deplete their farm system even more? Lucas Gilbreath is a LOOGY that has decent splits but isn’t a high leverage guy that some want here. And, his home splits are much better so isn’t a guy that will flourish once relieved of pitching at Coors.
 
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I like Toglia from Colorado, he is a gold glove 1B who switch hits with power who can play some OF lol
 
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Aside from Romo...

Warming Bernabel.. a corner infielder
Jaden Hill.. a right handed pitcher..

Are the two guys that would interest me..for more reasons that these scouting reports..

Romo, Veen and Tovar are the rockies better prospects.. & would be guys I wouldnt want to deal if I'm looking out for the best interest of the Rockies..
 
@petes999

I like Toglia from Colorado, he is a gold glove 1B who switch hits with power who can play some OF lol

With his 29% K rate at AAA that jumped up to 36% in his limited 111 AB at MLB ... Yet, if you read the FG review on him, if true, run for the hills

"Over the course of the six-week Arizona Fall League season, opposing pitchers identified and exploited Toglia’s vulnerability to breaking stuff. He very often swings over top of any breaking ball executed within the zip code of the bottom of the strike zone, as his swing just doesn’t enable him to get the bat on plane with the baseball down there."

Needs to talk to Oscar on how to adjust his swing....
 
With his 29% K rate at AAA that jumped up to 36% in his limited 111 AB at MLB ... Yet, if you read the FG review on him, if true, run for the hills

"Over the course of the six-week Arizona Fall League season, opposing pitchers identified and exploited Toglia’s vulnerability to breaking stuff. He very often swings over top of any breaking ball executed within the zip code of the bottom of the strike zone, as his swing just doesn’t enable him to get the bat on plane with the baseball down there."

Needs to talk to Oscar on how to adjust his swing....

I have a hunch he will end up like Christian Walker but switch hitting... this was his age 23 season and he played 17 games at AAA before his MLB call up... he's definitely gonna be a monster in Colorado though
 
Marlins – 69-93 (15th FG System)



Here is another 40 man issue with 48 players on their roster now. They only lost Aguilar. And per FG, they have 4 must adds and 11 fringe prospects.

Must-Add Prospects: Peyton Burdick, Andrew Nardi, Josh Simpson, Sean Reynolds

Current 40-man Fringe: Willians Astudillo, Billy Hamilton, Jeff Brigham, Jordan Holloway, Tommy Nance, Jimmy Yacabonis, Huascar Brazoban, José Devers, Sean Guenther (TJ), Dylan Floro, Paul Campbell

Prospects on the Fringe: George Soriano, Zach King, Troy Johnston (MLB #19), Griffin Conine (#23), Eli Villalobos, Anthony Maldonado, Luis Palacios, Osiris Johnson, Jefry Yan, Will Stewart

BTV NTC – Brian Anderson, Elieser Hernandez, Jordan Holloway, Nick Neidert, Tanner Scott, Jacob Stallings, Cole Sulser, Joey Wendle

BTV said “Miami gave up a fair amount of prospect capital to acquire all four of Scott, Stallings, Sulser and Wendle in trade, and now all four have zero’d out in value.”

Biggest Need – Hitting as they are getting rid of Mattingly with team having the 5th highest K rate of 24% and only Groshans as an major possible upgrade for next year. Their fans want a CF, SS and either 1B/hitting C to help bolster their line-up. They also have a few pitchers out with TJS – including Meyer and Sanchez with shoulder surgery. This is the area of the pack where they have the $$$ to buy talent (fans want one of the big SS in FA). Or, they can trade Lopez as most of their fans expect to help fill a position hole or two as they have some pitching in the upper minors to fill in this hole – in Perez, Eder and Meyer (inj).

Who do the Guardians want – They are in about same situation we are, strong pitching / hitting needs a bit of improvement. Of course, if they trade Lopez, you can try to buy him but aren’t we also looking to trade Bieber near deadline or next year if he will not sign long-term at team friendly rate? Thus, why go after other people’s 2-year rentals? At least Bieber can change his mind and call is agent at last minute like Ramirez. And, Lopez a bit more valuable per BTV than a Woodruff. With Miami having a roster crunch, it won’t be a 4-1 trade but maybe a Rocchio, Valera or Williams plus some for him (not our excess of Jones, Tena, Palacios types). Is this what our fans want for a 2-year rental to let Espino and Bibee develop a bit more?

You can say Okert as a lefty reliever but his splits are slightly reversed, so not worth the cost. We could have tried to get back Aguilar (FA signed by Baltimore) after a disappointing season or get Cooper who isn’t the RHB that we want with even splits but even Miami fans want an upgrade at 1B. They also have some back-up catchers that can be dealt in Henry Ford (average defense/bat first) and Nick Fortes (reverse splits – doesn’t pair well then with Naylor left handed bat). Then of course this is all if you cannot get Stallings at a discounted price for two year? But, with catchers in demand this offseason, some other teams will be calling about them but probably not us.
 
Los Angeles Angels – 73-89 (FG #24 system)



It seems inevitable that they will have to trade Ohtani, as the prerequisite to keep him is to improve a franchise that has little to no immediate farm system help and is paying Rondon $36 million for his measly 1 WAR. Yet, the question is which if any organization has the assets to rent Ohtani for a year if there is no guarantee that he will resign. And, the assets that it will take to build a winning organization around Ohtani will deplete their farm system which is needed to get other assets around Ohtani. Yet, the Dodgers seem stacked no matter how much they spend on prospects for Turner or Bettis, they still keep their farm system stacked. Yet, will the Angels trade Ohtani to their crosstown rivals? Or, will other teams give up the farm to get him or wait a year till FA, especially if the Mets have to give up Alvarez? Will Angels accept anything less than a King’s ransom? (I guess at deadline if they are a bottom feeder again and risk just getting one pick in return).

Sitting at 41 players with a bunch of mediocre talent across the board, they will have room to add their Rule 5 guys of Jackson, Adams, Martinez and Ingram. Yet, do they risk even looking like a Rule 5 team when they are still trying to woo Ohtani who said winning was the most important thing.

BTV NTC - Jo Adell, Jack Mayfield, Touki Toussaint, Andrew Velazquez, Chad Wallach, Jared Walsh

Biggest Needs – They just need some of their veterans to turn it around like Stassi and Rondon to pair with Ohtani and Trout. Yet, Rondon has had 3 mediocre years and is now and is now the wrong side of 30 (32). Stassi is 31 and it isn’t a good sign that they got O’Hoppe at the deadline for Marsh. It just seems there are too many holes (LF, SP, RP – especially with the trade of Inglesias and even SS) to fill in order to keep Ohtani.

What Guardians Need from them – Even if they trade Ohtani, I don’t see them giving up on O’Hopple or Ward who would be my go to players to poach as they cannot sell the farm with Trout still signed for many years to come. They have an excess of catching now in O’Hoppe, Stassi and Thaiss, yet Stassi regressed and is in his last year of extension and Thaiss isn’t much of a catcher.
 
...while it's not much of a farm system.. there are two realistic guys who should interest the Guardians:

NOT Ohtani or Trout

O'hoppe: The right kind of catcher the Guardians need.. but, he's not so good of a prospect that he cannot be had for the right package. (truth be told.. if there is no trade for a backstop from the Angels minor leagues, Jeff Quero will be passing O'Hoppe up during the 2023 season as a prospect) O'Hoppe is a RHH who swings hard and makes pretty good contact, doesn't strike out as much as he will at the ML level and takes some walks... He'll run into a few that will leave the yard.. but, make no mistake, he's not a power hitter.. he's a hitter than has "some" power. Defensively, he has soft hands, good feet and pop times, but his arm is maybe average, no more than that.. He'd be the back up to any catcher on the current Guardians roster.. A fair deal for him would be Nolan Jones as the headliner & any two of Battenfield, Pilkington, Curry and/or Morgan..

Ky Bush: Comes with some RP risk, but is a big dude that throws a downward plane "heavy" fastball that he really brings.. When he's at his best.. Ky Bush gets a lot of swing and miss with his FB/SL as both are at least above average ML offerings. He has a CB and CH.. but, they're nothing to write home about at present. Once in a great while, his CH can be amazing... While he may still be a starter if he stays with the Angels.. he'd be a multi-inning to back of the pen type with the Guardians. That would be his floor. .

Otherwise, the Angels organization is exactly where it's at due to the lack of on field talent, poor evaluation capability of their pro personnel department, and an ownership situation that treats the business of playing fundamental baseball like a spoiled 8 year who owns the baseball and is going home if he doesn't get his way.. The worst thing that can happen to the rest of the AL West is Arte Moreno sells or is stepping aside as owner..
 
...while it's not much of a farm system.. there are two realistic guys who should interest the Guardians:

NOT Ohtani or Trout

O'hoppe: The right kind of catcher the Guardians need.. but, he's not so good of a prospect that he cannot be had for the right package. (truth be told.. if there is no trade for a backstop from the Angels minor leagues, Jeff Quero will be passing O'Hoppe up during the 2023 season as a prospect) O'Hoppe is a RHH who swings hard and makes pretty good contact, doesn't strike out as much as he will at the ML level and takes some walks... He'll run into a few that will leave the yard.. but, make no mistake, he's not a power hitter.. he's a hitter than has "some" power. Defensively, he has soft hands, good feet and pop times, but his arm is maybe average, no more than that.. He'd be the back up to any catcher on the current Guardians roster.. A fair deal for him would be Nolan Jones as the headliner & any two of Battenfield, Pilkington, Curry and/or Morgan..

Ky Bush: Comes with some RP risk, but is a big dude that throws a downward plane "heavy" fastball that he really brings.. When he's at his best.. Ky Bush gets a lot of swing and miss with his FB/SL as both are at least above average ML offerings. He has a CB and CH.. but, they're nothing to write home about at present. Once in a great while, his CH can be amazing... While he may still be a starter if he stays with the Angels.. he'd be a multi-inning to back of the pen type with the Guardians. That would be his floor. .

Otherwise, the Angels organization is exactly where it's at due to the lack of on field talent, poor evaluation capability of their pro personnel department, and an ownership situation that treats the business of playing fundamental baseball like a spoiled 8 year who owns the baseball and is going home if he doesn't get his way.. The worst thing that can happen to the rest of the AL West is Arte Moreno sells or is stepping aside as owner..

I am sure that SC would like him some Bush .... he may even be up for some double Bus(c)h was the other guy from Dodgers.

And, who knows where the Angels are going with everything but I don't foresee a complete tear down. I doubt they will sell on O'hoppe (like your deal of Jones and 2 pitchers though) even if Quero is better long-term. They gave up a lot for him in Marsh. Article said Phillies saw the hole in his swing (too long). But, Thaiss isn't the short-term gap and Stassi had a down year (see if he recovers this year on the other side of 30).
 
I am sure that SC would like him some Bush .... he may even be up for some double Bus(c)h was the other guy from Dodgers.

And, who knows where the Angels are going with everything but I don't foresee a complete tear down. I doubt they will sell on O'hoppe (like your deal of Jones and 2 pitchers though) even if Quero is better long-term. They gave up a lot for him in Marsh. Article said Phillies saw the hole in his swing (too long). But, Thaiss isn't the short-term gap and Stassi had a down year (see if he recovers this year on the other side of 30).

I don't want that one from the Dodgers lol
 
I am sure that SC would like him some Bush .... he may even be up for some double Bus(c)h was the other guy from Dodgers.

And, who knows where the Angels are going with everything but I don't foresee a complete tear down. I doubt they will sell on O'hoppe (like your deal of Jones and 2 pitchers though) even if Quero is better long-term. They gave up a lot for him in Marsh. Article said Phillies saw the hole in his swing (too long). But, Thaiss isn't the short-term gap and Stassi had a down year (see if he recovers this year on the other side of 30).
Hypothetically, moving O'Hoppe only occurs by the Angels when they bite the bullet and move Ohtani.. like to the Jays for Moreno and Orelvis Martinez leaving the Angels with the two Guardian pitchers and Nolan Jones at 1B, the best C prospect (Moreno) and Orelvis Martinez for their middle infield void..... This is the kind of move an "Angels" FO does to move the need in the SoCal basin..

Thoughts?
 
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