Aaron Hernandez Involved in Murder Investigation

[cdt]

Isn't this where the NSA "saves the day"?

I don't agree with the spying at all trust me. Just feel like it goes on whether we're notified of it or not...

 

[Soda]

I don't agree with the spying at all trust me. Just feel like it goes on whether we're notified of it or not...

I was joking. Just funny that the destroying of the cell phone seems like its a tough break in the law's case; however, with the tap of a few fingers, the evidence can be conjured up BY THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. :chuckles:

I mean, it's no secret anymore... May as well use the shit.

 

[Urban]

This is pretty crazy, a bunch of things stacking up against him- could very well be guilty.

And if he is, man what an idiot to throw away a good NFL career at such a young age.

 

[MoneyMP3]

I don't get this dude. I mean you're playing in the NFL making bank, catching TD's from one of the greatest QBs of all time and you get invloved with this crap. Don't get it.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I don't get this dude. I mean you're playing in the NFL making bank, catching TD's from one of the greatest QBs of all time and you get invloved with this crap. Don't get it.

Sadly, making a ton of money doesn't magically make you smart.

 

[col63onel]

This doesn't bode well for Urban Meyer, who supported the Hernandez choice wholeheartedly for a while now... For some reason, I feel like these guys, while possibly not involved, know a lot about the incident... Same with Ray Lewis.

Am I missing some details? I have trouble seeing how this reflects badly on Meyer. Was Hernandez always in trouble in college? Were their red flags Meyer ignored?

 

[gourimoko]

He may have destroyed the cell phone because it may have contained pictures or even video. If he burned it (well) then that would destroy any data stored on the phone's internal or external memory. If he only wiped the phone, that data could easily be restored.

 

[Soda]

Am I missing some details? I have trouble seeing how this reflects badly on Meyer. Was Hernandez always in trouble in college? Were their red flags Meyer ignored?

I'm not sure if you missed anything.. Hernandez DID have gang ties stemming back to his days as a native of Bristol, Connecticut. Concerns with those that he associated with being involved in gang activity definitely had to do with why he dropped in the draft. I was just saying that knowing this, Urban Meyer still recruited him heavily, even despite the death of his father. I'm a huge Buckeye fan and a fan of Meyer, but this looks bad. It's simple.

NORTH ATTLEBORO, Mass. -- Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez, who has been connected to a possible homicide this week near his home in North Attleboro, Mass., has been dogged by off-field issues dating at least to his time at the University of Florida, multiple NFL and law enforcement sources have told SI.

Hernandez was questioned by police on Monday, a source told SI. His house was searched for more than two and a half hours Tuesday evening by a dozen state police investigators. Hernandez is not believed to be a murder suspect.

Police are investigating the death of a male, whose body was found on Monday at an industrial park less than a mile from Hernandez's house. A vehicle rented in Hernandez's name has emerged as a key piece of evidence, and police are trying to locate another vehicle -- a 2013 Chrysler 300 -- that was also rented under Hernandez's name.

The victim of the possible homicide was identified Wednesday as Boston Bandits semi-pro linebacker Odin Lloyd, according to WBZ News. Lloyd was dating the sister of Hernandez's girlfriend, WBZ reported. Lloyd was shot in the head, according to ABC News.
The probe likely will cause investigators to scrutinize Hernandez's complicated past.

On June 13, a Hernandez acquaintance, Alexander S. Bradley, filed a civil complaint against Hernandez in U.S. District Court alleging that a gun -- in Hernandez's possession illegally -- discharged and shot Bradley in the face, causing the loss of his right eye.

The suit alleges Hernandez and Bradley argued at Tootsie's strip club in Miami. The gun discharged while Hernandez, Bradley and other associates were returning from Miami to Palm Beach.

Four days later, on Monday, Bradley dropped the suit. It is not known if there is a connection between this incident and the North Attleboro case.

Hernandez fell to the fourth round of the 2010 draft in part because of marijuana use while with the Gators, something he admitted to NFL teams at the scouting combine when he was a draft prospect, according to several NFL sources.

Personnel sources from multiple NFL teams tell SI that they had off-field concerns about Hernandez. In particular, the questions pertained to alleged gang activity of some of Hernandez's associates in his native Bristol, Conn. A law enforcement official familiar with Hernandez reiterated concerns about his circle of influence.

Combined, the marijuana use and gang concerns worried some NFL teams immensely.

"There were a lot of teams that had him off the board," said an NFL personnel executive.

But with the Patriots, Hernandez has been little problem for the team. Teammates described him as enthusiastic with some minor maturity issues, but not to the point of being a problem. At times the team had a tough time corralling him as far as staying focused on the field, but nothing beyond that.

"He really is a great kid at heart," said one former teammate. "He was a great teammate, just loves football. Won't find many guys who practiced harder."

Independently, both a former and current New England teammate said that they believed Hernandez was having some trouble with his past associates and was seeking distance from them. Bristol, Conn. is just a two hour drive to Hernandez's home.
"It was a thug life," is how one teammate described some of Hernandez's friends.

Hernandez was the youngest player in the NFL, 20, at the start of his rookie season. He's still just 23.

Hernandez's older brother, D.J., has been well respected in his career as a college assistant coach at Brown, the University of Miami, and now the University of Iowa. Hernandez was a two-time captain as quarterback and receiver at the University of Connecticut.

Both brothers had to endure the loss of their father, Dennis, in 2006 at the age of 49 due to complications from hernia surgery. D.J. was 19, Aaron 16 at the time. The death of Hernandez's father was one of the reasons why Hernandez decommitted from UConn and chose to play for coach Urban Meyer and the Gators.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130619/aaron-hernandez-history/#ixzz2WqwAVsaO

 

[CornerThree]

I don't get this dude. I mean you're playing in the NFL making bank, catching TD's from one of the greatest QBs of all time and you get invloved with this crap. Don't get it.

Many of the skills that translate into being a good athlete/football player do not mesh with normal everyday living.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Many of the skills that translate into being a good athlete/football player do not mesh with normal everyday living.

I think it's more that being a good athlete and not being a fucking moron are not necessarily skills that overlap.

 

[col63onel]

I'm not sure if you missed anything.. Hernandez DID have gang ties stemming back to his days as a native of Bristol, Connecticut. Concerns with those that he associated with being involved in gang activity definitely had to do with why he dropped in the draft. I was just saying that knowing this, Urban Meyer still recruited him heavily, even despite the death of his father. I'm a huge Buckeye fan and a fan of Meyer, but this looks bad. It's simple.

Ah. Was unaware of his past.

Wouldn't Belichick look worse?

 

[Soda]

Ah. Was unaware of his past.

Wouldn't Belichick look worse?

Well, sure. I'm not invested in anything Bill Belichick, so I don't care about his persona. I do care about how Urban looks to his potential recruits and their families, though.

 

[MattyFos.]

Meyer kept him out of trouble while he was in Florida correct? For the most part.




If so he did his job. He's not responsible for how his recruits behave after the fact

 

[The Voice]

I'm still unsure how this makes Meyer a bad guy. If we had evidence of Meyer, telling him "destroy the cell phone" then I do see that. We don't have that though, for all we know Meyer didn't know anything that was going on with him anymore. Thinking he's in New England and Hoodie runs a tight ship over there.

Tressell took guys under his wing with a shady past. I.E. Clarette (who flopped) and Troy Smith (who seemed to flourish compared to where he was at).

Are we going to blame his high school coach too?

 

[The Voice]

The example of driving fast definitely wasn't with the intention of locking anyone up don't get me wrong. I'm just citing it as stupid behavior that is often ignored and tossed out. I'm talking about the guys that are involved in drug possession, assaults, etc that end up with barely even any community service or anything.

I'm not a big fan of throwing a multi-millionaire in jail because of a drug possession. This is something we should be looking at to clear up the debt crisis. Offer them jail with a buyout option. I know this isn't a political thread, so I'll stop right here.

I'm just saying there should be less of a gap between athletes and the average citizen to get them to actually you know abide by the laws like we do in a daily basis. I think the problem is these guys feel they're above the law and they think their money, celebrity, and lawyers get them off. A good example is Donte Stallworth, regardless of whether the dude was jaywalking or not he ran him over and killed him while drunk and did what? 30 days or something in jail? Insane I think you get more for having a joint...

The blame for the time spent in jail for Donte is on the family of the victim. They aren't outraged, because they're getting paid. There's more to this story then what's being told IMHO.