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Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

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Chris said:
Responding to that stuff is stupid. But very Baker. Least he’s true to himself.
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I get it on his end. He’s brought this franchise back to relevancy, won one playoff game and played pretty well in the other playoff game.

Where would this franchise be without Baker? It’s understandable he’d be hurt that some fans are looking to trade him for Watson, especially when I’m sure in Baker’s mind he thinks he can be just as good as Watson, maybe better.

If I were him I’d want to make the author of that article uncomfortable too, and I’m sure it did.
 
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Chris said:
Responding to that stuff is stupid. But very Baker. Least he’s true to himself.
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I obviously don't know Baker personally. But he seems likes one of those athletes that does better when there is a chip on his shoulder. And when there isn't naturally a chip on his shoulder, he has to create one.

If feeling slighted about Watson rumors that will never happen makes him a better QB, then fine.
 
So if Baker next year gets his completion percentage up, he will have better stats then Watson. I don't understand the fascination of wanting Watson over Baker. First, Baker took half the sacks that Watson did. Baker is far better at throwing the ball away instead of taking the sack than Watson. I also understand Baker had a better offensive line and coach, but David Johnson averaged 4.7 YPC they also had Duke Johnson who is a very good 3rd down back.

Watson for all of his stats did not lead to many wins. I know football is a team game, but Watson had some very good receivers, when Baker was balling out OBJ was hurt, so its not like our receiving core was better. Also in the middle of Bakers improvement, we had the 3 bad weather games. I feel if those 3 games are thrown out, he is at about 65% overall. He can improve on that a bit, and I know I am a broken record, but if Baker gets to 67-68% with the way he plays and the amount he throws the ball away (its a good thing), then he will be borderline top 5 QB in the league.

I am a stat guy, but stats can be misleading, not all QB's throw on the same surface, If Brees didn't play in a dome, no way he has so many seasons over 70%. Watson plays his home games in a dome too on a fake turf not real grass.

By comparison, Rodgers had over 70% this year somehow playing in Green Bay, much more impressive, but his previous 5 years? 61, 65, 64, 62 and 62%. Why? Because he plays games in some truly awful conditions and he is good at throwing the ball away.

Hust saying Watson's stats will drop a bit in Cleveland while I expect Baker's stats to get better next year as he finds consistency and learns this offseason in Stefansky's system.
 
shoes22 said:
I get it on his end. He’s brought this franchise back to relevancy, won one playoff game and played pretty well in the other playoff game.

Where would this franchise be without Baker? It’s understandable he’d be hurt that some fans are looking to trade him for Watson, especially when I’m sure in Baker’s mind he thinks he can be just as good as Watson, maybe better.

If I were him I’d want to make the author of that article uncomfortable too, and I’m sure it did.
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All those things are true. Still a goofy look to tweet about it. Again, that’s who Baker is though and it’s fine. Like I said at least he’s true to who he is.

Call me a pessimistic Browns fan but as high as I was on Baker to end the year, I still want to see him continue to improve and play up to this level going into next year. Don’t want to see gigantic regression like 2019. Thankfully with this staff, my confidence is much higher.
 
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I’m ok with Baker on this. I thought the original tweet was dumb and while he could have let it go his comment wasn’t that heavy. Better that he tweets himself instead of his wife tweeting or using a burner account like that bitch Durant.
 
Lee said:
So if Baker next year gets his completion percentage up, he will have better stats then Watson. I don't understand the fascination of wanting Watson over Baker. First, Baker took half the sacks that Watson did. Baker is far better at throwing the ball away instead of taking the sack than Watson. I also understand Baker had a better offensive line and coach, but David Johnson averaged 4.7 YPC they also had Duke Johnson who is a very good 3rd down back.

Watson for all of his stats did not lead to many wins. I know football is a team game, but Watson had some very good receivers, when Baker was balling out OBJ was hurt, so its not like our receiving core was better. Also in the middle of Bakers improvement, we had the 3 bad weather games. I feel if those 3 games are thrown out, he is at about 65% overall. He can improve on that a bit, and I know I am a broken record, but if Baker gets to 67-68% with the way he plays and the amount he throws the ball away (its a good thing), then he will be borderline top 5 QB in the league.

I am a stat guy, but stats can be misleading, not all QB's throw on the same surface, If Brees didn't play in a dome, no way he has so many seasons over 70%. Watson plays his home games in a dome too on a fake turf not real grass.

By comparison, Rodgers had over 70% this year somehow playing in Green Bay, much more impressive, but his previous 5 years? 61, 65, 64, 62 and 62%. Why? Because he plays games in some truly awful conditions and he is good at throwing the ball away.

Hust saying Watson's stats will drop a bit in Cleveland while I expect Baker's stats to get better next year as he finds consistency and learns this offseason in Stefansky's system.
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The disparity is quite a bit bigger than completion percentage.

Watson is on a substantially worse team and the two weren't particularly close by nearly any metric, or collection of stats.
 
AZ_ said:
The disparity is quite a bit bigger than completion percentage.

Watson is on a substantially worse team and the two weren't particularly close by nearly any metric, or collection of stats.
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I may be oversimplifying this, and this is more of a testament to how good DeAndre Hopkins is and not a slight on Deshaun Watson, but how does a team go from being 28 points up on the Chiefs in the playoffs to being terrible in the matter of an offseason and the only major change is trading Hopkins?
 
shoes22 said:
Baker’s been paying attention to all the Watson chatter. This is his newest pinned tweet:

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Am I the only person who is reading this wrong because it's worded................weird....
 
Sharpner said:
I may be oversimplifying this, and this is more of a testament to how good DeAndre Hopkins is and not a slight on Deshaun Watson, but how does a team go from being 28 points up on the Chiefs in the playoffs to being terrible in the matter of an offseason and the only major change is trading Hopkins?
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I mean, DHop is great.

Trading him opened up more than just a talent hole at WR, although Watson actually improved YoY statistically.

McNair and Easterby have HUGE culture issues they need to face, that speaks more to the volatility than anything they lost from a talent perspective. Team is nearing a full on mutiny.
 
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