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Speaking of driving in snow, track mode in the performance models

 
KI4MVP said:
Speaking of driving in snow, track mode in the performance models
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Which is.... literally the opposite of being able to drive in snow?

"Track mode" typically means you disable the computer stuff like ABS and traction control.

The fuck does that have to do with a family in Northeast Ohio trying to get to the grocery store in 12 inches of slush and snow?

The answer to @Ben and the others asking about snow is that the car is no different than others. It's fine. Your tires matter more.

There are Teslas with four-wheel drive, which would obviously be the better bet over the two-wheel drive. You probably have to watch out for slipping at low speeds, as the cars have no torque curve. You get all the power at 0RPM, so you can spin your wheels really easily if you're not careful.

One could probably go so far as to make the argument that an EV weighs more than a gas vehicle due to the batteries, so that added weight can help with traction.

I don't think there's any world where the Teslas are going to beat the best winter performer in their price bracket, but they're fine. I'd be more worried about my car being fucking cold because of all the drafts coming in between their shoddily mismatched panel work.
 
Out of the Rafters at the Q said:
Which is.... literally the opposite of being able to drive in snow?

"Track mode" typically means you disable the computer stuff like ABS and traction control.

The fuck does that have to do with a family in Northeast Ohio trying to get to the grocery store in 12 inches of slush and snow?

The answer to @Ben and the others asking about snow is that the car is no different than others. It's fine. Your tires matter more.

There are Teslas with four-wheel drive, which would obviously be the better bet over the two-wheel drive. You probably have to watch out for slipping at low speeds, as the cars have no torque curve. You get all the power at 0RPM, so you can spin your wheels really easily if you're not careful.

One could probably go so far as to make the argument that an EV weighs more than a gas vehicle due to the batteries, so that added weight can help with traction.

I don't think there's any world where the Teslas are going to beat the best winter performer in their price bracket, but they're fine. I'd be more worried about my car being fucking cold because of all the drafts coming in between their shoddily mismatched panel work.
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Track mode for having fun, but also has multiple settings to help with driving in snow.

I mentioned weight for driving in snow before. I've driven my wife's car up our driveway in conditions where our old cars couldn't do it.

My car would do it too if I put different tires on it. I don't have anywhere to store second set of tires, so just drive the X instead.

Start this at the 9 minute mark, he explains how the car monitors and adjusts for loss of traction. He's driving Model 3 performance with snow tires.


A couple more videos in the snow

 
Out of the Rafters at the Q said:
Which is.... literally the opposite of being able to drive in snow?

"Track mode" typically means you disable the computer stuff like ABS and traction control.

The fuck does that have to do with a family in Northeast Ohio trying to get to the grocery store in 12 inches of slush and snow?

The answer to @Ben and the others asking about snow is that the car is no different than others. It's fine. Your tires matter more.

There are Teslas with four-wheel drive, which would obviously be the better bet over the two-wheel drive. You probably have to watch out for slipping at low speeds, as the cars have no torque curve. You get all the power at 0RPM, so you can spin your wheels really easily if you're not careful.

One could probably go so far as to make the argument that an EV weighs more than a gas vehicle due to the batteries, so that added weight can help with traction.

I don't think there's any world where the Teslas are going to beat the best winter performer in their price bracket, but they're fine. I'd be more worried about my car being fucking cold because of all the drafts coming in between their shoddily mismatched panel work.
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Why was I tagged in this?
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
And on a fiance? Where does she work, Crazy Horse?
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Not sure if there's a place in Cleveland but I'm definitely still paying off my birthday trip thanks to the one in Las Vegas.

Anyways would definitely buy a Tesla for someone there if I could. Thank God I can't.
 
Even thought I said that EV's aren't for me right now doesn't mean I'm against them. They'll be a big part of the future and needed too. And will get better for sure. Just think about no oil changes, no filters, maybe less dealer visits, OTA updates, clean with no leaks, a lot to like. But we ain't there yet in my view.
Also consider a few other downsides, more so as pointed out in colder climates. Things we do now in our ICE vehicles and take for granted because there's seemingly endless power reserves, like turning up the heat, seats, steering wheel, cranking the AC and audio system, turning all the lights on, leaving it running while sitting in it waiting for my wife to shop, charging my phone, that kind of stuff. With an EV it's a whole new world. You'll be worried about every little thing sucking juice. Still if you have other vehicles to drive maybe an EV can work for a lot more people.
That said one EV that has got a whole lot of good press is the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Low 40's to mid 50's cost. Good functionality. Looks may not be for everyone. The Kia EV6 is similar I believe.
Last thing, going well in snow or icy conditions is mostly about the tires. I'm talking about legit "winter tires". But you need a second set of wheels and somewhere to store them. They're not for year round use. Heck and old rwd beater with four good winter tires would outperform some of the nice SUV's mentioned earlier if they had the stock summer tires on that they often come with, in winter conditions.
 
Jake said:
Even thought I said that EV's aren't for me right now doesn't mean I'm against them. They'll be a big part of the future and needed too. And will get better for sure. Just think about no oil changes, no filters, maybe less dealer visits, OTA updates, clean with no leaks, a lot to like. But we ain't there yet in my view.
Also consider a few other downsides, more so as pointed out in colder climates. Things we do now in our ICE vehicles and take for granted because there's seemingly endless power reserves, like turning up the heat, seats, steering wheel, cranking the AC and audio system, turning all the lights on, leaving it running while sitting in it waiting for my wife to shop, charging my phone, that kind of stuff. With an EV it's a whole new world. You'll be worried about every little thing sucking juice. Still if you have other vehicles to drive maybe an EV can work for a lot more people.
That said one EV that has got a whole lot of good press is the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Low 40's to mid 50's cost. Good functionality. Looks may not be for everyone. The Kia EV6 is similar I believe.
Last thing, going well in snow or icy conditions is mostly about the tires. I'm talking about legit "winter tires". But you need a second set of wheels and somewhere to store them. They're not for year round use. Heck and old rwd beater with four good winter tires would outperform some of the nice SUV's mentioned earlier if they had the stock summer tires on that they often come with, in winter conditions.
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Actually, you don't worry about that at all. The cars use way less energy leaving the climate on than gas cars use gas to leave them running just to keep the climate on. That's why they can do things like dog mode, camp mode, and sentry mode, with no exhaust fumes to worry about. With the christmas update, you can even

 
And with holiday update, dog mode now lets you see what your dog is doing from your phone

 
Insurance savings with Tesla insurance on Model 3 Performance. Rate is tied to safety score. Same coverage/limits as old insurance, old insurance was over $120/month.

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Fuel savings over the same days the safety score - 846 miles driven, 817 on Autopilot/FSD.

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