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My dream draft is this:

- Wiseman with our top 5 pick. I think he goes top 3, so let's pray to the lottery Gods.

- Trade back into the 1st round for Precious Achiuwa. He's exactly what you're looking for in a power forward in today's NBA. I'd even offer the Bucks pick to get him.

- Another guy that intrigues me is Saddiq Bey out of Villanova. He's a 6'8" 3&D wing. His comp is Khris Middleton. He's gonna be a starter in this league.
 

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My dream draft is this:

- Wiseman with our top 5 pick. I think he goes top 3, so let's pray to the lottery Gods.

- Trade back into the 1st round for Precious Achiuwa. He's exactly what you're looking for in a power forward in today's NBA. I'd even offer the Bucks pick to get him.

- Another guy that intrigues me is Saddiq Bey out of Villanova. He's a 6'8" 3&D wing. His comp is Khris Middleton. He's gonna be a starter in this league.
Trading back into the 1st round isn't very likely unless the Cavs are giving up a future 1st rounder and/or packaging a legit player with it.


The Cavs might trade back into the second if a team wants to just get rid of the pick when another owner is strapped for cash, but those trades don't happen as often anymore.
 

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Trading back into the 1st round isn't very likely unless the Cavs are giving up a future 1st rounder and/or packaging a legit player with it.


The Cavs might trade back into the second if a team wants to just get rid of the pick when another owner is strapped for cash, but those trades don't happen as often anymore.
Here's how I would get it done:
- Trade Garland to Washington for #9 & #37.
- Trade Bucks pick to Boston for #17.
Pick #2: James Wiseman
Pick #9: Precious Achiuwa
Pick #17: Saddiq Bey
Pick #37: Malachi Flynn
 
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Here's how I would get it done:
- Trade Garland to Washington for #9 & #37.
- Trade Bucks pick to Boston for #17.
Pick #2: James Wiseman
Pick #9: Precious Achiuwa
Pick #17: Saddiq Bey
Pick #37: Leandro Bolmaro
Cavs are not going to add 4 raw rookies to an already young team. That's insane.
 

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Cavs are not going to add 4 raw rookies to an already young team. That's insane.
Why not? The Cavs are rebuilding. It makes sense to add youth to the roster. Besides, 3 of those guys could become starters once we move on from Drummond & Love.
PG: Sexton
SG: Porter Jr.
SF: Bey
PF: Achiuwa
C: Wiseman
 

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Trade back into the 1st round for Precious Achiuwa. He's exactly what you're looking for in a power forward in today's NBA. I'd even offer the Bucks pick to get him.
How so? I have to say...I don't see it at all lol.
 

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Hey, nothing personal against @JJ_PR but we have a long-standing expectation to separate trade ideas which are not substantiated by reputable articles from the main thread. We can discuss the Cavs overhauling a significant chunk of the roster - in any scenario - on draft day here.

I personally don't see it happening. I don't see Ainge trading a mid-first this year for a Bucks pick next year which should be in the bottom five. I don't see Washington trading that package for Garland, coming off a very disappointng rookie season. They are also rebuilding.

I just believe the Cavs will take what they can get at the top of the first, not get too cute, and maybe Deep Pockets Dan buys back into the late second round if another owner is panicking about empty arenas and revenue.
 

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This is what Altman should to do on draft night:

- Draft James Wiseman.
Why? He's a special talent with immense upside at a position of need. I have him as a significantly better prospect than Okongwu. Wiseman has the makings of a good all around big, whereas Okongwu projects as an energy big in the Montrezl Harrell mold.

- Trade Garland for the draft rights of Precious Achiuwa.
Why? Achiuwa is what I'm looking for in a power forward. He has good length, is a good shooter, athletic freak, is a good shot blocker & much more. He has the versatility of a small forward, which is why he's the perfect power forward for today's game. He's a 3&D power forward, a rarity.

- Trade the '21 Bucks first rounder for the draft rights of Saddiq Bey.
Why? Saddiq Bey has all the tools to be an all star at the small forward position. He can shoot it from long range, is a good athlete & has a 6'10" wingspan. His draft day comparison is Khris Middleton, but Bey is more versatile offensively. He's a good ball handler & gets to the rim frequently from the three point line.

Drummond & Exum are probably trade candidates to teams looking to shed cap. Love is here only because of his contract, he'll get traded as soon as the opportunity presents itself. I could be wrong though.
 
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This is what Altman should to do on draft night:

- Draft James Wiseman.
Why? He's a special talent with immense upside at a position of need. I have him as a significantly better prospect than Okongwu. Wiseman has the makings of a good all around big, whereas Okongwu projects as an energy big in the Montrezl Harrell mold.

- Trade Garland for the draft rights of Precious Achiuwa.
Why? Achiuwa is what I'm looking for in a power forward. He has good length, is a good shooter, athletic freak, is a good shot blocker & much more. He has the versatility of a small forward, which is why he's the perfect power forward for today's game. He's a 3&D power forward, a rarity.

- Trade the '21 Bucks first rounder for the draft rights of Saddiq Bey.
Why? Saddiq Bey has all the tools to be an all star at the small forward position. He can shoot it from long range, is a good athlete & has a 6'10" wingspan. His draft day comparison is Khris Middleton, but Bey is more versatile offensively. He's a good ball handler & gets to the rim frequently from the three point line.

Drummond & Exum are probably trade candidates to teams looking to shed cap. Love is here only because of his contract, he'll get traded as soon as the opportunity presents itself. I could be wrong though.
Why not draft Jalen Smith for example, who's better than Achiuwa in literally every single way?
 

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Why not draft Jalen Smith for example, who's better than Achiuwa in literally every single way?
Jalen Smith could be this year's John Collins, which is perfectly fine. However, Achiuwa offers versatility at both ends of the court. He's the better athlete, & his athleticism is why I call him a 3&D power forward. He reminds me alot of Luol Deng, a former Cav.

Achiuwa has the quickness to be a good perimeter defender, much better in that area than Jalen Smith. He'd be a perfect match next to Wiseman, helping him defend the perimeter as a power forward.
 
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Jalen Smith could be this years John Collins, which is perfectly fine. However, Achiuwa offers versatility at both ends of the court. He's the better athlete, & his athleticism is why I call him a 3&D power forward. He reminds me alot of Luol Deng, a former Cav.
Eh, if you're going to argue that you see some additional athletic upside in Achiuwa, then sure. But Smith is a more prolific and more accurate shooter, and Big 10 All-Defense is a pretty big feather in his cap there. You don't need a 40" vert to be a 3&D PF.
 

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Eh, if you're going to argue that you see some additional athletic upside in Achiuwa, then sure. But Smith is a more prolific and more accurate shooter, and Big 10 All-Defense is a pretty big feather in his cap there. You don't need a 40" vert to be a 3&D PF.
The main difference I see between these 2 is that Achiuwa is a swingman type, whereas Smith is more of a traditional power forward PF/C that can't play the 3. Achiuwa is far more useful at the 4 in the modern NBA imo & players like him are harder to come by. The Cavs should be all over him on draft night.
 

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The main difference I see between these 2 is that Achiuwa is a swingman type, whereas Smith is more of a traditional power forward PF/C that can't play the 3. Achiuwa is far more useful at the 4 in the modern NBA imo & players like him are harder to come by. The Cavs should be all over him on draft night.
I know Achiuwa is billed as a more versatile SF/PF hybrid, but I don't think the skills are there to back it up. He turns it over a lot, and he's not really a threat to shoot off the dribble. So what positive perimeter skills does he bring to the table? It seems like he could use another year of development in college.
 

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I know Achiuwa is billed as a more versatile SF/PF hybrid, but I don't think the skills are there to back it up. He turns it over a lot, and he's not really a threat to shoot off the dribble. So what positive perimeter skills does he bring to the table? It seems like he could use another year of development in college.
It all boils down to who do you want as your starting 4, John Collins or a more athletic Luol Deng? It might be a tough call for some, but give me Deng anyday. The versatility of being able to guard the perimeter on a full time basis to go along with the length of a center. Smith, like Collins, seems more like a one dimensional player; a big who can stretch the floor but what else does he bring to the table that is above average aside from athleticism?
 

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It all boils down to who do you want as your starting 4, John Collins or a more athletic Luol Deng? It might be a tough call for some, but give me Deng anyday. The versatility of being able to guard the perimeter on a full time basis to go along with the length of a center. Smith, like Collins, seems more like a one dimensional player; a big who can stretch the floor but what else does he bring to the table that is above average aside from athleticism?
If I saw Achiuwa as a more athletic Luol Deng I'd certainly be on board. But even against a pretty soft NCAA schedule it was clear that Achiuwa isn't a savvy passer or a crafty ballhandler the way Deng was. Unless he has a straight line to the rim, putting the ball in his hands isn't going to be an efficient option in the NBA, so unless he makes big improvements to his game I expect him to end up in an energy guy role.

As for Smith, I think Collins is a good comparison and I agree that he's rather limited in some ways. I just brought him up because he seems like a pretty safe bet to competently space the floor on offense and defend the paint on defense, which makes him a very useful if unspectacular kind of player.
 

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