Cleveland Browns 2020 Regular Season: What a Ride!

[Los216]

 

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[Los216]

Browns going hard at downplaying any Myles Garrett revenge stories this week

 

[bs80]

Obviously its a circumvent of the spirit of the rules as yes, you could do a basketball "sign and trade" and take on the bonus money. But why wouldn't the league nix the deal again?

Agreed, it would still be a way to circumvent the salary cap. I don't think the league would nix this one though, since we really do have a legitimate on-field reason to do such a thing -- we lost a stud RB for a month or so, and our current lead RB is playing through a groin injury. In a few weeks, we could easily make the case that Chubb is nearly healed and that Hunt is back to full strength. We could also make the case that this is in Bell's best interest, too. That's materially different from signing a player in the offseason and then immediately trading him before he even sets foot in the building.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

You gotta go back and look at the numbers on the contract PIT was offering him. It was all about the guaranteed money. PIT never offered more than $20M in guaranteed money which was a low ball offer. Bell wanted more guaranteed money and PIT didn't want to give him that. The Jets did. Also PIT is notorious for being stingy negotiating contracts.

Here's an analysis of what happened financially:

Le’Veon Bell contract details revealed: Here’s how much Jets' new star may have lost by sitting out 2018

Did sitting out 2018 pay off for Le'Veon Bell?

www.cbssports.com

The key point is that by choosing to sit out the entire 2018 season, Bell lost out on $14.5M in guaranteed money via the franchise tag, or $20M in guaranteed money if he'd have signed the Steelers' offer. And if the Steelers had chosen to cut him after just that one $20M year, he could then have signed that exact same deal with the Jets.

Now maybe the argument is "what if he'd been injured during the 2018 season, and the Steelers had cut him?" And yes, if he'd been injured during the 2018 season, he'd have only earned $20.5M in guarantees for one season with Pittsburgh versus the $25M in two-year guarantees being offered by the Jets.

BUT, if he'd made it through that first season but been injured in his second, he'd have actually earned more in Pittsburgh than in New York, because the two year Pittsburgh total was greater than the 2 year NYJ total.

In other words, Bell's move only made sense if he was injured in 2018, in which case he would have earned an extra $4.5M. But if he wasn't injured at all, or was injured in 2019 rather than 2018, he cost himself at least $19M. And that's just a stupid basis on which to make a decision, because an injury in 2018 would have been no more likely than an injury in 2019.

A guy who makes stupid decisions that go directly to to his willingness to step on the field likely scared the shit out of potential trading partners for the Jets. That's probably why they had to release rather than trade him.

 

[DJTJ]

Am I the only one worried that if Baker’s ribs are worse then expected, and Case plays and plays well, that there might be a QB controversy I. A 5-1 or 4-2 team?

 

[Binkster]

Am I the only one

Yes.

 

[CBBI]

Am I the only one worried that if Baker’s ribs are worse then expected, and Case plays and plays well, that there might be a QB controversy I. A 5-1 or 4-2 team?

I'm sure Baker's ribs and/or shoulder are hurting him pretty bad.

But everyone knows what Case Keenum is and what Case Keenum isn't and outside of his one clear outlier season in 2017, he's not better than Baker Mayfield.

He should never see the field unless Mayfield physically cannot go.

 

[browniebob]

I'm sure Baker's ribs and/or shoulder are hurting him pretty bad.

But everyone knows what Case Keenum is and what Case Keenum isn't and outside of his one clear outlier season in 2017, he's not better than Baker Mayfield.

He should never see the field unless Mayfield physically cannot go.

This thinking is far too rational for Cleveland sports media and a large percentage of the fanbase.

 

[MGMT]

Saw the official injury report and saw that Ogunjobi and Richardson didn’t practice; also saw that there was nothing pertinent to Jordan Elliot’s participation level or absence.

if all 3 were absent from the game I’d essentially guarantee this as a loss.

 

[Surge]

Saw the official injury report and saw that Ogunjobi and Richardson didn’t practice; also saw that there was nothing pertinent to Jordan Elliot’s participation level or absence.

if all 3 were absent from the game I’d essentially guarantee this as a loss.

Yeah that would be bad.

 

[Los216]

Saw the official injury report and saw that Ogunjobi and Richardson didn’t practice; also saw that there was nothing pertinent to Jordan Elliot’s participation level or absence.

if all 3 were absent from the game I’d essentially guarantee this as a loss.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Steelers still have three other WRs who are going to gash us.