Cleveland Development Thread

[Soda]

This is big for East Cleveland, which couldn't even afford to fill potholes. They have an ambulance on blocks next to one of their fire stations. Becoming a part of Cleveland enables them to have their city services absorbed by Cleveland and thus reduce costs.

It also means the death of their traffic cam operation that made Euclid Ave useless as a thoroughfare. Maybe the city will streamline Euclid so it is not only driveable but people start to go through there again.

It has been much worse than that. East Cleveland was unable to afford to pay employees and as a retort to that, they defaulted on their health insurance payment for the month to use those funds for payroll. This has happened more than once.

 

[LyXo]

East Cleveland has already been relying on public services from Cleveland and other neighboring burbs - police forces, fire, everything. They've been trying to build up, but haven't been able to do squat. They have lots of historical buildings and homes (millionaire's row homes, more than Cleveland proper) so they have things to work with but need basic support first. There's also been a hard divide between East Cle and Case that they've only been willing to interact through a 10-foot pole. So hopefully this will help over time.

 

[SixPACK]

Didn't know which thread to put this in and didn't want to start a new one, so decided to put it in here:

I got put in charge of developing a 2017 quarterly plan for community service-learning projects for the whole family. Needs to be something that kids (of any age range) can gain leadership, critical thinking skills, motivation and confidence to show them that they can make a difference in the community.

For example, we have an event called Penny Harvest. Mainly elementary schools collect pennies (or any other money, but the point is to show that even a little bit helps) and the student leaders then get the school together and decide which non-profit organization they want to donate the money to. More goes into it, but you get the idea. But that basically only involves the kid. Need events for the whole family.

Sooooo, I am brewing up some ideas, but of course ANY suggestions or ideas could help. Shit, if we even use your idea, I can try and make you a part of it somehow, if you want. It has to be more than just, "write cards to veterans." An idea that I thought of would be to have the school create a community garden on their property. They would grow vegetables, herbs and shit and then donate it how they see fit. While they are doing that, they can learn about the importance of nutrition and the value in helping those families in need. The whole family would be involved by having shifts, where certain families would check on the garden at certain times. That is kind of a stretch, but you get it...

So thanks for any help, I am going to tag a few people off the top of my head, but anyone please answer. Go Tribe!

@The Oi @King Stannis @Cratylus @Rob @chrisrich91 @Chris @Randolphkeys @SuperSurge @Phills14 @Soda @Maximus

 

[Pick6]

Didn't know which thread to put this in and didn't want to start a new one, so decided to put it in here:

I got put in charge of developing a 2017 quarterly plan for community service-learning projects for the whole family. Needs to be something that kids (of any age range) can gain leadership, critical thinking skills, motivation and confidence to show them that they can make a difference in the community.

For example, we have an event called Penny Harvest. Mainly elementary schools collect pennies (or any other money, but the point is to show that even a little bit helps) and the student leaders then get the school together and decide which non-profit organization they want to donate the money to. More goes into it, but you get the idea. But that basically only involves the kid. Need events for the whole family.

Sooooo, I am brewing up some ideas, but of course ANY suggestions or ideas could help. Shit, if we even use your idea, I can try and make you a part of it somehow, if you want. It has to be more than just, "write cards to veterans." An idea that I thought of would be to have the school create a community garden on their property. They would grow vegetables, herbs and shit and then donate it how they see fit. While they are doing that, they can learn about the importance of nutrition and the value in helping those families in need. The whole family would be involved by having shifts, where certain families would check on the garden at certain times. That is kind of a stretch, but you get it...

So thanks for any help, I am going to tag a few people off the top of my head, but anyone please answer. Go Tribe!

@The Oi @King Stannis @Cratylus @Rob @chrisrich91 @Chris @Randolphkeys @SuperSurge @Phills14 @Soda @Maximus

I like the food thoughts. I'm involved some with the Hunger Network of Greater Cleveland. Not the same recognition as the Greater Cleveland food bank, but they are very efficient. How about the kids run canned food drives in school and the kids/students volunteer some time at a food distribution location? Let me know if you'd like me to get you in contact with somebody.

http://www.hungernetwork.org/

 

[Binkster]

View: https://twitter.com/cityofcleveland/status/798672739485843456


Thank God.

Cleveland Scene of course trying to stir the pot saying what a disaster this is and painting the RTA as the victim.

Meanwhile, RTA trying to attribute their financial hemorrhaging to this decision. Give me a break.

 

[Binkster]

Huge, huge, huge news day today for DT Cleveland. Cleveland is getting the equivalent of Ballpark Village, a Shake Shack, and a Starbucks Reserve - all part of today's tenant announcement for the nuCLEus project:

http://realestate.cleveland.com/rea...eveland_live_will_anchor_nuc.html#incart_2box

Additionally, Amazon expected to open a downtown brick-and-mortar pick-up store:

http://www.cleveland.com/business/i...expected_to_open_downto_1.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

[NorthCoastBias]

a Shake Shack

 

[bigfoot5415]

I still think we need more bodies to sustain all of this expansion. I know occupancy is at an all time high, but it still doesn't feel like we can support all of this.

For example, I went downtown on a Saturday in the fall. It was a very nice night and we were down in the flats. It was decently crowded, but there was no one at the Piano bar, and the restaurants up by E&Y were pretty empty. To my knowledge, atleast one has already closed.

As we left, we drove up that one hill to the warehouse district and the place was a ghost town. The flats comeback may be at the expense of the warehouse district. If something like this is built in gateway plaza, what happens to Winking lizard, Nicks, the BW3, etc?

 

[bigfoot5415]

That being said, Live will be a great place to watch a ball game. I wonder if the social atmosphere has a strain on event attendance.

 

[-Akronite-]

I dying for nuCLEus to happen and go well. The fact that they are still committed and bringing in these new-to-Ohio venues is great.

It makes sense to be worried about expansion, but does it do us good to stop trying? It's not easy to make a downtown area pop when there isn't already a sporting event or something going on. Continue putting cool shit there and it should make it more desirable and continue the success we've been having so it doesn't fade off like in years past.

Also, Shake Shack is good but overpriced in NYC, I wonder if in Ohio they'd give it more reasonable pricing.

 

[BMAN]

What is this shake shack you guys speak of? Will I have a hard on?

 

[brownindian]

Are there any new businesses moving in that adds 100+ jobs atleast ?

 

[Binkster]

I still think we need more bodies to sustain all of this expansion. I know occupancy is at an all time high, but it still doesn't feel like we can support all of this.

You have to strike while the iron is hot and the occupancy is rising. There are more entertainment options than ever (Tremont, Ohio City, East 4th, Flats, West 6th, Playhouse Square, Gordon Square/Detroit Shoreway).

People have options and traffic will filter/fluctuate - especially with the season. The logical solution is to keep increasing occupancy in surrounding areas.

Ohio City is finalizing at least two high end apartment projects. Downtown has several in the works. Gordon Square has multiple, as well. Entertainment options and retail help ensure the occupancy trend continues.

Quite simply, people won't live there if there's nothing to do.

 

[Binkster]

If something like this is built in gateway plaza, what happens to Winking lizard, Nicks, the BW3, etc?

This is a pretty simple Marketing concept that research has validated over time.

If a given area is populated with a higher quantity of popular business, the higher likelihood of success for all participating venues. It's a great traffic driver and encourages other businesses to jump in, as well.

It's why restaurants in The East Bank collaborate and support each other as opposed to outright, cutthroat competition.

 

[-Akronite-]

What is this shake shack you guys speak of? Will I have a hard on?

I tend to, yes.

My first time there I wasn't that impressed, though it was a good burger. When I tried the Shack Stack (fried mushroom patty on top of burger) I realized it was in fact something to write home about. Swenson's is still my #1 (especially if cost is a factor), but damn fine burgers.