Cleveland Guardians Offseason Discussion 2021-22

[Bob_The_Cat]

For me, I would think the roller derby would want the judge to rule that the two names can co-exist due to no confusion in use. Why?

Two main revenue sources that they do have

1) .com name which should be worth more than the 4 figures the Indians offered

2) As they have used the name before and thus have some rights to continue to use it fir their branding, they should hire a branding agent and graphic artist to design tshirts of what non-flash fans wanted the new logo to be (statues). Get a stand downtown pre-game (to market their sport/use) and look at the money they can make if they avoid using the same font and silly G-baseball trademarks. If something catches on, sell their trademark design to the Indians.

This was my first thought. Roller Derby team could maintain use of name but license the use of name to Baseball Team for certain use cases. Charge baseball team an annual fee plus a percentage of profits from merchandise and other items bearing the name. This is exactly what teams and universities do when it comes to licensing the use of brand assets to other companies.

Baseball team can either agree or decide to undergo a lawsuit they will likely lose where private communications within the team will have to be reviewed and made public, or potentially have to go through the re-branding process all over again.

 

[Alabuckeye]

as well run as this organization is....one would think that someone would have done their due diligence with the name.

 

[Derek]

as well run as this organization is....one would think that someone would have done their due diligence with the name.

Perhaps, but this seems like the equivalent of a local slow-pitch softball team.

 

[Alabuckeye]

Perhaps, but this seems like the equivalent of a local slow-pitch softball team.

Sure.....and maybe my ignorance is showing with this comment, which wouldn't be the first time, but I would think there would be a state database for ownership of a corporate name that can be searched against. I mean if I start a pizza restaurant in the Columbus area and name it Donato's....there's gonna be problems, even if it's just a hole in the wall pizza joint across town.

 

[sportscoach]

Sure.....and maybe my ignorance is showing with this comment, which wouldn't be the first time, but I would think there would be a state database for ownership of a corporate name that can be searched against. I mean if I start a pizza restaurant in the Columbus area and name it Donato's....there's gonna be problems, even if it's just a hole in the wall pizza joint across town.

The problem is the Roller Derby team didn't trademark their team name and since they didn't, the Indians/Guardians to be had 100% legal right to the name. Morally it's a bit wrong, but legally they have all the right sadly. If you use a name, but don't legally trademark it, then anyone can use it or trademark it. If you start a product and don't copyright/trademark it and someone else makes the same product and trademarks it, you are out of money since you never protected it. It makes the other person sleazy in a sense, but still within their legal rights...

 

[Derek]

Sure.....and maybe my ignorance is showing with this comment, which wouldn't be the first time, but I would think there would be a state database for ownership of a corporate name that can be searched against. I mean if I start a pizza restaurant in the Columbus area and name it Donato's....there's gonna be problems, even if it's just a hole in the wall pizza joint across town.

The roller derby team didn’t file any trademarks though.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Not my place to tell it, but a lot of you have the situation figured wrong.

 

[Alabuckeye]

Probably because we have scant information about the situation, and are trying to fit pieces together and then fill in the blanks. Thats not abnormal.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

So anyway. Talkin' baseball.
I just saw Myles Straw was nominated for a Gold Glove in CF. Big congrats to him.
I have no idea how those awards are made these days. It seems like it goes to a good defensive player who hits a handful of home runs.
Analytics is fine. But for me, Straw passes the eye test in CF pretty easily for me.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Don't have all the pieces due to limited info, but willing to say the franchise didn't do its due diligence, is pushing around the little guy, and acting sleazy with confidence.

Got it.

 

[Alabuckeye]

Don't have all the pieces due to limited info, but willing to say the franchise didn't do its due diligence, is pushing around the little guy, and acting sleazy with confidence.

Got it.

I don't know what I've done to you, but you seem to have a problem with my comments. And you selectively use what I've said to your own end.

I claimed likely ignorance. I said "ONE WOULD THINK THAT THIS WELL RUN ORGANIZATION DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE"

Feel free to continue spinning my comments for your own means though.

 

[BimboColesHair]

I don't know what I've done to you, but you seem to have a problem with my comments. And you selectively use what I've said to your own end.

I claimed likely ignorance. I said "ONE WOULD THINK THAT THIS WELL RUN ORGANIZATION DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE"

Feel free to continue spinning my comments for your own means though.

Not directed at you individually man. Just some of the comments/verbiage I saw. Sorry if it melted down feeling all at you, its not.

Have no problem with people being frustrated at bad PR.

2 sides to this story though, and only one side is out to the public right now. Wish I could say more, but its not my place. Whole story will come out soon enough.

 

[JJ_PR]

The more I think about it, the more I like Spiders. If we can't use Guardians, Spiders would be my choice. It has so much potential.

 

[xmasbuck]

Pretty shitty place we’ve arrived in in this country if the little guy attempting to protect their intellectual property is a cash grab, but the big business trying to take something that’s not theirs is fine. Business as usual I guess.

perhaps those from our old name might have an opinion as to where and "when" this arrived

 

[MirORich]

Pretty shitty place we’ve arrived in in this country if the little guy attempting to protect their intellectual property is a cash grab, but the big business trying to take something that’s not theirs is fine. Business as usual I guess.

perhaps those from our old name might have an opinion as to where and "when" this arrived

But was it their intellectual property to begin if they never trademarked for years it in the first place? Or was it just a fun name to use for a team in a sporadic league not much more different then casual rec league basketball, kickball, bowling etc.?