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Cleveland Guardians Offseason Discussion 2021-22

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Criznit said:
It really is... but SSS based on this tweet for those keeping score at home.

I had always held an affinity for Asian/non-traditional MLBers and don't expect the Guardians to be in on this guy... However, in recent years with the exception on Ohtani, these guys tend to sign for less than their initial projections...

If for some reason this happens, the Guardians seem like a reasonable suitor for his services, though we never play here.

If it comes down to an average of less than 10 mil a season - think 5 years at 7 mil a year... We should consider it... It either pays off quick or turns into a sunk cost.. Lot's of boom or bust, but I think around 7-8 mil a year to see what you can do for the next 5 years..... Tough call....
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I can't remember Cleveland adding any supposed to be "plug and play" foreign league free agent--Cuban, Japanese, Korean, etc. Yandy Diaz did eventually pay dividends but he was cheap and years away when signed.
 
BimboColesHair said:
Think you got the wrong Mejia.
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Oh come now.... lol

Francisco was a legit prospect... So was ______________________.

Jean Carlos battled.... Went from a DSL closer type (are these guys ever real prospects) to turn that performance into a quality starting performance in LC when Aiken and other were injured/not able to perform...

JC Mejia is a definite ML pitcher fot the next couple years.... Does he perform or rebury..... IDK... But with the 4th option year awarded, no service contract issues to be concerned with.... It was a no-brainer someone was going to kick his tires.... With the option, he clearly gets another run at ML success, and he is in a good spot to make do. Will he? I'll guess yes.
 
Criznit said:
Oh come now.... lol

Francisco was a legit prospect...

Jean Carlos battled.... Went from a DSL closer type (are these guys ever real prospects) to turn that performance into a quality starting performance in LC when Aiken and other were injured/not able to perform...

JC Mejia is a definite ML pitcher fot the next couple years.... Does he perform or rebury..... IDK... But with the 4th option year awarded, no service contract issues to be concerned with.... It was a no-brainer someone was going to kick his tires.... With the option, he clearly gets another run at ML success, and he is in a good spot to make do. Will he? I'll guess yes.
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Yeah, not what I was saying.

I think Kilgore thinks we are talking about dumping Francisco Mejia for a bag of balls, who was "one of our better prospects" to steal his verbiage.
 
JC Mejia was never really that promising.

However, in his defense, that COVID season really hurt his chances of making it in Cleveland.

He should have spent 2020 pitching in Akron. They would have gotten a better idea of whether to develop him in the pen or in the rotation, and he would have gained valuable experience (he only had about 275 professional IP before this year).

Instead, he missed out on that year and essentially went straight from being a mediocre starter in A+ to being in the majors.
 
Derek said:
JC Mejia was never really that promising.

However, in his defense, that COVID season really hurt his chances of making it in Cleveland.

He should have spent 2020 pitching in Akron. They would have gotten a better idea of whether to develop him in the pen or in the rotation, and he would have gained valuable experience (he only had about 275 professional IP before this year).

Instead, he missed out on that year and essentially went straight from being a mediocre starter in A+ to being in the majors.
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JC Mejia never got above 24th on MLB.coms top 30 prospect list. Now it doesn't mean anything, but personally I felt he wasn't MLB ready in 21 and I agree with you that losing 20 hurt him... also the injury time early in the minors hurt him as well...
 
Derek said:
JC Mejia was never really that promising.

However, in his defense, that COVID season really hurt his chances of making it in Cleveland.

He should have spent 2020 pitching in Akron. They would have gotten a better idea of whether to develop him in the pen or in the rotation, and he would have gained valuable experience (he only had about 275 professional IP before this year).

Instead, he missed out on that year and essentially went straight from being a mediocre starter in A+ to being in the majors.
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Disagree here.

He was a late bloomer type that really excelled in his opportunity to do so, but then he got injured. Always proclaimed to possess a MLB worthy slider, coupled with a sinker with potential... He was a top 20 prospect at his peak all day.

Is he a loss based on our current roster? No. But he certainly has the tools to play major league baseball for the next several years, if he puts it together.
 
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Criznit said:
Disagree here.

He was a late bloomer type that really excelled in his opportunity to do so, but then he got injured. Always proclaimed to possess a MLB worthy slider, coupled with a sinker with potential...

Is he a loss based on our current roster? No. But he certainly has the tools to play major league baseball for the next several years, if he puts it together.
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The last time Mejia excelled was as a reliever for the Mahoning Valley Scrappers
 
Derek said:
The last time Mejia excelled was as a reliever for the Mahoning Valley Scrappers
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It was his EXCELLENCE as a RP that thrusted him into a starting roll when Aiken and others were injured/couldn't perform. He should have a 50/50 chance of being a ML pitcher at this point, especially with another option...

I don't care that we moved on, but this guy ain't trash... At least not yet... Just rejected from the "Cleveland Pitching Factory".
 
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CalBuckeyeRob said:
I can't remember Cleveland adding any supposed to be "plug and play" foreign league free agent--Cuban, Japanese, Korean, etc. Yandy Diaz did eventually pay dividends but he was cheap and years away when signed.
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A reliever from Japan, Kobayashi outside of that, they really havent... they have done fairly well in international signings, but none were near MLB.
 
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