Collin Sexton | The Young Bull

[NMCav]

His peak is Nets Devin Harris. I've said it since he was drafted. Harris was more developed coming out of college but both have similar athetlic abilities and tunnel vision. Despite having seasons averaging 6 APG Harris didn't have great vision.

When Sexton gets better teammates he will be able to get to at least 5 or 6 APG. His defense is terribly bad but defense usually comes with time most 20 year olds don't step on the court as average defenders. In a year or two I think he can at least be a average defender.

 

[CavsFTW]

He took 6 threes tonight. Made three of them.

Also attempted 7 twos. Made one.

 

[Goldin Brown]

I really think people should be more patient with Collin. I've been following the league for a long time and most guys are bad their first few years in the league. Superstar players reveal themselves very early, but most of the other guys have to develop greatly before they are actually good enough to get regular rotation minutes. I think Collin, as much as he has struggled, has shown enough signs that he has a good future as a rotation player. That's not a bad thing, he might not be a superstar but he looks to me like he can develop into a useful/productive player. I don't know what his ceiling is, but I know he has a long way to go to get there. He's a prospect, it's going to take him a few years imo, he looks raw as hell to me.

Seems to have a knack for scoring but the rest of his game looks very underdeveloped. Just my opinion, but it seems like the coaching staff has been asking him to work on expanding his game. He was way more aggressive attacking and looking for his own shot earlier in the season, lately he has been giving it up and playing off the ball more. Maybe they are making him give up the ball because they think he's trash, I don't know. I just think it's going to take him a long time to develop and I don't believe that's a bad thing. It just means some guys need time, doesn't mean that they can't be good players. This particular guy needs to develop his understanding of the game and his body especially. If he can't do that, then he will be terrible forever.

 

[CavsFTW]

His peak is Nets Devin Harris. I've said it since he was drafted. Harris was more developed coming out of college but both have similar athetlic abilities and tunnel vision. Despite having seasons averaging 6 APG Harris didn't have great vision.

When Sexton gets better teammates he will be able to get to at least 5 or 6 APG. His defense is terribly bad but defense usually comes with time most 20 year olds don't step on the court as average defenders. In a year or two I think he can at least be a average defender.

Hypothetical, but doubtful. They're not even that much alike. Sexton can knock down 3s efficiently -- Devin couldn't. Devin got the the line at a high rate; Sexton doesn't. Devin wasn't much of a passer, but he was compared to Sexton. Realistically, Sexton will likely end up an energy guy off the bench who can spread the floor. If he's going to maintain his starting role beyond next season, he'll need to improve considerably.

 

[godfather]

I don't think it's about being bad. Most rookies suck, but you can at least see some traits they have and can develop going forward.

I don't think the case is that Sexton sucks, and we should just write him off as an NBA player.

But I think expectations need to be put into perspective. He's not a cornerstone piece to this franchise you build around. That's laughable if we believe he really is.

If we go into this draft, and refuse to draft a point guard that's good, because we have Sexton. Then this franchise is hopeless.

There's not a single position on this team that is set in stone going forward.

I want a better point guard than Sexton going forward. Because I don't see it him, at all.... His point guard skills don't exist. He's awful at defending the basketball.

He's got solid scoring traits. But he's never going to be an elite shooter. He's not that talented, like a Kyrie Irving on that end of the floor.

I put him on the Lou Williams level at best.

He'd need one of the biggest jumps in NBA history to be starter caliber on a really good team.

I don't mean literally starting and play on a team that sucks that makes no impact. either.

But a high level starter on a contending team. I don't see it.

I think his ceiling is 6th man off the bench.

 

[godfather]

Hypothetical, but doubtful. They're not even that much alike. Sexton can knock down 3s efficiently -- Devin couldn't. Devin got the the line at a high rate; Sexton doesn't. Devin wasn't much of a passer, but he was compared to Sexton. Realistically, Sexton will likely end up an energy guy off the bench who can spread the floor. If he's going to maintain his starting role beyond next season, he'll need to improve considerably.

He's basically going to have to transform into a completely different player. Pull out of his ass, skills, and talent he's been hiding all along.

This is why I kinda chuckle at the "he's still so young and growing" line.

Like yeah, I get he's 19 and isn't going to be this flawless player. But at some point you got to see the talent and raw skills that he just haven't yet developed.

And where's Sexton's?

Unless he's doing a Houdini act, he's not displayed many....

The kid can score the ball, and has proven to be a better shooter than we thought. Everything else? It's not there....

 

[chuck0609]

Also attempted 7 twos. Made one.

I guess my point was that’s more than his normal four- which means he replaced two long jumpers with threes.
And he shot 50%.
It can be seen as incremental progress; replacing the bad long jumpers with a metric friendly three.

 

[inliner311]

Also attempted 7 twos. Made one.

Whiteside has had Sexton's number with shot blocks at the rim. I think he will struggle to finish at the rim against the elite (top 3-4) shot blockers in the league this year because of the utter lack of a shot blocker on Cavs roster for him to practice against. I actually think it's one of the reasons why the Cavs haven't been able to develop talent over the years without those players being in the rotation and getting heavy game minutes.

 

[Cavatt]

2 months ago a bunch of geniuses on the board said Cedi was no good. I'll do what I always do and wait and see.

 

[macbdog]

Remember when TT used to get blocked on almosy every post up, even when guarded by Earl Boykins. But now that rate has at least been cut in half. There is hope for Sexytime to improve.

 

[CavsFTW]

Remember when TT used to get blocked on almosy every post up, even when guarded by Earl Boykins. But now that rate has at least been cut in half. There is hope for Sexytime to improve.

A likely byproduct of Earl Boykins' retirement.

 

[The Oi]

I'll do what I always do and wait and see.

I think you and others could use some practice waiting and seeing in some other threads, but this is useful here.

 

[Cavatt]

I think you and others could use some practice waiting and seeing in some other threads, but this is useful here.

Are you friends with Longabardi or something? How many years of negative returns do we need on this guy? You want to see if he can break his own record as a historically bad defensive team next year?

 

[avs2000]

Are you friends with Longabardi or something? How many years of negative returns do we need on this guy? You want to see if he can break his own record as a historically bad defensive team next year?

Entire staff needs purged after the season That’s for sure

 

[The Oi]

Are you friends with Longabardi or something? How many years of negative returns do we need on this guy? You want to see if he can break his own record as a historically bad defensive team next year?

Is that the one you thought I meant?