Darius Kinnard Garland

[NMCav]

Hes Obi-Wan. He is joining Collin Sexton who is Anakin Skywalker.

 

[The Voice]

What are the odds that we can get garland and the rest of the Cavs other then 2 of them who already have them to grow a rat tail?

 

[iWx]

View: https://twitter.com/RuiterWrongFAN/status/1141937058400935936

 

[iWx]

View: https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1141938182256320512

 

[TyGuy]

Ugh of course they pick an unathletic white dude

He actually tested out very well athletically, but he’s white so we assume he can’t jump over a parking block.

 

[cabs]

can we trade Clarkson and Nance now... imagine having two top 8 drafted pg's on the court and still having Nance bring the ball up the court

 

[Triple-S]

I'm very interested to see how he turns out.
For people flipping out? There's only so much you can really do in the slot you're in. With Zion, Mourant and co off the board? This guy was worth the gamble considering how highly his workout/scouting report was.

You have to have talent on this roster and people to sell tix. This also isn't the NFL where you can just trade down. There's no recouping your losses in that scenario. Talent is very finite in the NBA, gotta jump on it if it comes your way.

Gonna take some time to get this thing to playoff caliber again. Just let me have some players to see make the all-star game. All I want. *

*Realistic expectation. OF COURSE I'd love to see another O'Brien trophy but that's not going to happen for a lonnnng time considering the NBA and parity do not exactly mix.

 

[AussieCavFan]

I love his ability to change pace.

 

[Mr. MacPhisto]

Better and willing defenders though... Hope it works out though for the Cavs

Are they?

We're calling Sexton a poor defender because of what he did as a 19/20 year old? Ultimately the jury is still out on defense. Let's also remember that the Cavs didn't really coach or focus on D - hadn't since Lue was HC. D'Aaron Fox was pretty terrible in year one and became better than average in year two. I don't expect that with Sexton, but let's see if he grows. Sexton probably has a 6'7"+ wingspan right now. Sexton's height has always been smaller, but his length measurements are very good. Those measurements indicate that he may be able to guard the 2 - and he measured 6'7.25 last year. I'd be interested if his wingspan has increased - I'm guessing it has.

Garland is smaller than Sexton on the length comparison. Garland is a year younger, so still could grow.

Let's see where it all goes. I have a feeling they think Sexton could roll into the 2 - and they may experiment with that. Let's also see what the new coaching staff does. Does Colin grow on defense? We know he works hard and I guarantee you that he hates being ranked near the bottom at anything, including D.

As for Sexton, his length is not all that far off those that play the 2 despite his height. His wingspan is greater than CJ McCollum's and while McCollum is not a good defender he is okay (better than Klay Thompson for Defensive RPM).

It's not reasonable to hope for Sexton to be a star on defense, but I think he can be average on D even at the 2 with work. Many of his problems last year had to do with bad reads - but he's a smart guy. I think as he gains experience, his reads will get better.

Garland is another hard worker with a lot of upside - his upside goes all the way up to a Lillard type.

We'll have to see how the coaches develop everyone on both sides of the ball. The Cavs took some intriguing players.

 

[CBBI]

Better prospect, Trae or Garland?

I think Trae was a better overall prospect than Garland.

They have some similarities. Both are excellent ball on a string dribblers who can get to the spots they want to get to on the floor. Combine that dribbling ability with a willingness to take and capability of making deep jumpers off the bounce and it’s a difficult to defend offensive combo. I would say Garland is a better shooter with a more natural stroke than Young.

I see three separating factors in Young’s favor.

1. Young was an elite passer and playmaker on the college level and very much knew how to set defenses up with the threat of his shooting range to then exploit them with his passing. This translated immediately to the NBA as well.

We hope Garland can do the same, but right now it’s all theoretical from a playmaking perspective because we’ve only seen it in flashes. A play here and a play there Garland will look like a passing savant, but more often than not he’s just looking to get his own shot. I believe Garland has more passing ability and passing willingness than Sexton who is more of a straight up bucket getter, but Garland is nowhere close to Young.

2. Even though they have similar athletic limitations, Young has shown a really crafty ability both in college and the pros to draw free throws at the rim despite not being a good finisher. Garland is also a poor finisher, only he hasn’t shown the same craftiness to rack up FTAs.

3. To make up for his lack of explosion and finishing ability at the rim, Young has also developed a really good floater/runner game. Trae shot 43% on runners/floaters this past year for the Hawks, with that taking up 28% of his offense.

I’m confident Garland will be able to make threes and use his dribble to get to his spots for his own offense. His overall upside to me is tied directly to his ability to score in the paint (finishing at the rim, drawing free throws, developing a floater/runner game) and his ability to be more consistent with his passing and playmaking.

 

[macbdog]

View: https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1141938182256320512

So is he healthy or not? He was healthy enough for a full scale workout but not for a even a part of a week of basketball?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

We have a coaching staff that's going to be working on developing players. That means defensively too. I full expect Collin to at least improve slightly. Also, did you see the entire team last year, with our defensive coordination? There was no focus at all on that side of the ball. Everyone needs to shut up for now because Longo's defense will have nothing to do with our team ever again. If in 2020-2021 Sexton is a shit defender, we can panic.

I could see Collin improving defensively, and he has the physical profile to become at least average defensively as a PG. But as an SG, he's always going to be undersized, and it's going to be a real struggle for him against larger 2's. He's just going to get outmuscled.

His best chance to stay with the team is for Rich Paul to force a trade of Garland. Probably put even money on that at some point.

 

[CavsFTW]

I think Trae was a better overall prospect than Garland.

They have some similarities. Both are excellent ball on a string dribblers who can get to the spots they want to get to on the floor. Combine that dribbling ability with a willing and capability of making deep jumpers off the bounce and it’s a difficult to defend offensive combo. I would say Garland is a better shooter with a more natural stroke than Young.

I see three separating factors in Young’s favor.

1. Young was a elite passer and playmaker on the college level and very much knew how to set defenses up with the threat of his shooting range to then exploit them with passing. This translated immediately to the NBA as well.

We hope Garland can do the same, but right now it’s all theoretical from a playmaking perspective because we’ve only seen it in flashes. A play here and a play there Garland will look like a passing savant, but more often than not he’s just looking to get his own shot. I believe Garland has more passing ability and passing willingness than Sexton who is more of a straight up bucket getter, but Garland is nowhere close to Young.

2. Even though they have similar athletic limitations, Young has shown a really crafty ability both in college and the pros to draw free throws at the rim despite not being a good finisher. Garland is also a poor finisher, only he hasn’t shown the same craftiness to rack up FTAs.

3. To make up for his lack of explosion and finishing ability at the rim, Young has also developed a really good floater/runner game. Trae shot 43% on runners/floaters this past year for the Hawks, with that taking up 28% of his offense.

I’m confident Garland will be able to make threes and use his dribble to get to his spots for his own offense. His overall upside to me is tied directly to his ability to score in the paint (finishing at the rim, drawing free throws, developing a floater/runner game) and his ability to be more consistent with his passing and playmaking.

Nice breakdown, CavsBrownsBuckeyesIndians. Veddy veddy nice. One knock about the Garland pick that I keep reading about is that the Cavs have now drafted two PGs in the past year, which is pretty funny because that tells me right away that these asshats haven't watched a single Cavs game since LeBron left. I think one guy gave the Garland pick a D grade for that reason alone. Sexton's skill-set is that of a 2 guard, so why punish Garland, who was drafted to fill the void Sexton could not? That makes zero sense. Garland was pretty much the consensus BPA. Koby Altman even said himself that the Cavs felt there was a significant talent drop after the 5th pick.

Certainly, there is the issue of playing two mice in the same back-court, but I don't believe that's the long term strategy. At some point we're going to need a bigger SG, but that's part of why they drafted Porter Jr., I imagine. If the dominoes fall as we hope they will, the Cavs will have their starting SG and will have one of the smaller guards slide to the bench or get moved for another player/pick.

 

[Alec]

If he doesn’t develop the distributing aspect of his game, Mo Williams seems like an apt comp. he’s going to score off his jumper. It’s everything else. Needs a Mo float

 

[SK808]

He actually tested out very well athletically, but he’s white so we assume he can’t jump over a parking block.

And that his penis is small. Assumptions, man.