Donovan Mitchell: All-NBA BEST Team

[foucault87]

32 8 and 8. Better winshares, BPM and VORP than Mitchell

Watch the tape. I saw him live. He wasn't trying all year. This matters

 

[HammerGold]

Watch the tape. I saw him live. He wasn't trying all year. This matters

Even not trying he's better than Mitchell then

 

[Jscc]

32 8 and 8. Better winshares, BPM and VORP than Mitchell

Elite numbers. What seed did this guy's team finish with?

 

[HammerGold]

Elite numbers. What seed did this guy's team finish with?

Mitchell wouldn't make the playoffs with that roster either. Horrible roster construction by Cuban

 

[Jscc]

Mitchell wouldn't make the playoffs with that roster either. Horrible roster construction by Cuban

Then why were they in the play-in race?

 

[cavsLTU]

You can average 40 10 and 10, but if you team finished below 66% of teams in NBA, no way you can be 1st team all NBA. The goal of basketball is to win games and not score 30+ points.

 

[CleveRocks]

You can average 40 10 and 10, but if you team finished below 66% of teams in NBA, no way you can be 1st team all NBA. The goal of basketball is to win games and not score 30+ points.

Who's goal .. some players have exactly the gosl to score 30+ points.. it directly affects their market value..

 

[HammerGold]

You can average 40 10 and 10, but if you team finished below 66% of teams in NBA, no way you can be 1st team all NBA. The goal of basketball is to win games and not score 30+ points.

It's a team game. Their record would have been worse if they had Mitchell over Luka

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

It's a team game. Their record would have been worse if they had Mitchell over Luka

I would actually be fairly surprised if Mitchell / Dinwiddie / Bullock / DFS plus whoever at C didn’t at least make the play-in, probably in the 7 or 8 slot.

Obviously there’s no Gobert, but personnel-wise it’s not terribly different from the Jazz teams he played on. If Kidd ran the same offense he does with Luka (none) then who knows.

 

[HammerGold]

I would actually be fairly surprised if Mitchell / Dinwiddie / Bullock / DFS plus whoever at C didn’t at least make the play-in, probably in the 7 or 8 slot.

Obviously there’s no Gobert, but personnel-wise it’s not terribly different from the Jazz teams he played on. If Kidd ran the same offense he does with Luka (none) then who knows.

It is way way worse than his Jazz teams. Bullock sucks. Dinwiddie is the only half way decent player they had. It's literally one of the worst teams in the league without Luka

 

[foucault87]

It is way way worse than his Jazz teams. Bullock sucks. Dinwiddie is the only half way decent player they had. It's literally one of the worst teams in the league without Luka

Most teams suck if you take away their best player. Pistons without beef stew are a 18 win squad

 

[HammerGold]

Most teams suck if you take away their best player. Pistons without beef stew are a 18 win squad

Most good teams have multiple all star level players, multiple players with good BPMs and VORPs. Mavs had nothing. Literally complete shit around Luka. In the running for worst team in the league without him. Probably 4-5 wins less if they had DM instead of Luka.

 

[foucault87]

Most good teams have multiple all star level players, multiple players with good BPMs and VORPs. Mavs had nothing. Literally complete shit around Luka. In the running for worst team in the league without him. Probably 4-5 wins less if they had DM instead of Luka.

Don't disagree with the first point but what is the point of this argument again?

 

[HammerGold]

Don't disagree with the first point but what is the point of this argument again?

People are trying to disqualify Luka from being all NBA 1st team because he had team had a bad record but that's a result of his supporting cast being extremely terrible. Hid numbers and metrics were a cut above Mitchell, Mitchell did not get snubbed.

Barring injury I doubt Mitchell ever makes 1st team over Luka for their careers. Luka is just a better player. Hes that guy who is going to get 1st team every year. Well I guess they're changing all NBA to be postitionless bit if they weren't DM would probably never top Luka

 

[Jscc]

I would actually be fairly surprised if Mitchell / Dinwiddie / Bullock / DFS plus whoever at C didn’t at least make the play-in, probably in the 7 or 8 slot.

Obviously there’s no Gobert, but personnel-wise it’s not terribly different from the Jazz teams he played on. If Kidd ran the same offense he does with Luka (none) then who knows.

I honestly think they would have about the same record. If Mitchell had to dominate the ball that much, he would. And he would do it well. With Gobert not clogging the paint, he might even do it better.