Evan Mobley: 2023 All Defensive 1st Team

[Peacedog]

The only other starter Mobley has who would play for one on a championship team is Allen. Garland, Okoro and Mark. No. Maybe Garland improves to that point in 2 years, but he ain't there now. Okoro has a eternity to go. Mark is a 6th man big like Collin is the smurf guard.

You never post anything of value, do you?

 

[kookoo]

KG's career and legacy was ruined because the T-Wolves fucked him over at every turn. They failed him when they allowed Starbury to leave, and then continued to blow draft picks and free agency for him.

KG's legacy was ruined because of the skinny jeans he's been wearing...

Jokes aside, I think people dislike KG because of his personality, picking on people smaller than him and joining that Celtics team. But unless you're using things outside of basketball or didn't really watch him play, you should easily be able to say he was generational.

But personally, I think if he thickens out, Mobley can be a perfect hybrid of Garnett and Mourning.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

KG's legacy was ruined because of the skinny jeans he's been wearing...

Jokes aside, I think people dislike KG because of his personality, picking on people smaller than him and joining that Celtics team. But unless you're using things outside of basketball or didn't really watch him play, you should easily be able to say he was generational.

But personally, I think if he thickens out, Mobley can be a perfect hybrid of Garnett and Mourning.

Celtics KG became a totally different guy. His fake ass personality that he developed in that big 3 team was weird as hell.

As for Mobley, the way he blocks shots reminds me of Ben Wallace, the way he gets on top of the ball and keeps it in bounds. But he's more explosive as a defender. And his offensive intelligence is maybe the best part of his entire game. It's incredible, not quite LeBron-ish but he's closer than I've ever seen a Cavalier have.

It's kind of crazy, but Mobley is already one of the best passing big men in the NBA. Wait until he gets confident and they use him as an offensive hub. Not to mention opening his offensive game and getting him more efficient. He gets real gravity and he's going to average 5 or 6 a game.

 

[Goldin Brown]

I think the game is played a lot differently now then when KG and Bosh were in their primes. I think Mobley has a chance to impact winning a lot more than either of those guys because of his offensive versatility. KG and Bosh in their primes impacted the offensive side of the floor mostly inside of like 18 ft from the basket. Mobley will have a similar impact but his shooting from distance and ability to attack close outs is an extra layer to his game, matched with his IQ, I think he'll be able to impact winning a lot more. His skill level, IQ and ability to play anywhere on the floor makes him a pretty rare individual, it's really up to the Cavs to put other smart highly skilled players around him, potential is sky high.

 

[Lee]

Time to bite the bullet and finally ignore someone for the 1st time on RCF.

I know you cant read this now, but I am sorry.

 

[BimboColesHair]

You all tell that son of a bitch that no @Lee post will ever step foot on BimboColesHair’s screen!

 

[cavsfever]

Here I am!

I was always pretty clear about criticizing his shot creation abilities (eg creating his own shot).

In my defense I watched every single offensive possession available on YouTube from his college game (like 15 games? idk) including posting a literal play by play analysis over a five or so game span pointing out pretty woeful offense including a bad handle, very poor post game/touch, and predictable driving game. And streaky/slow jumper. You can go through my post history, I was begging people to provide video that showed otherwise, but what I watched was him miss about 75% of the shots he created for himself which made me believe his FG% was largely from assisted FG's (which I asked if anyone had the stats for).

I think his handle is still "not great", his post game has been streaky, and driving game has been so-so. He looked the same in summer league as he did in college (bad).

Part of it was a handful of people comparing his offense to Durant.

His defensive presence has been outstanding ofc, I don't think anyone expected him to contribute this much so soon.

Still only 15 games in, we will see where he goes from here.

Poor Mr. Kouki will take a lot of heat for this but I see where he's coming from. I think the issue is that Mobley looks and moves like he should be not just a pretty good but a great offensive player. He so tall, so graceful, moves so well, has such great basketball IQ, and his shot looks so pretty when he's taking it that you do imagine he could be a Durant style offensive player. But he's more raw than he looks on offense, he still turns the ball over more than he should, he is streaky, and he can't get his own shot as well as he eventually will be able to. At this point he's more opportunistic, not totally a guy you can rely on to create offense yet.

But you know what? Even with all that he's still a solid offensive player -- hell, a good one for a rookie. His effective FG% is 51% on almost 11.8 FGA per game. Garnett at 20, in his second year, had an eFG% of 50.3% on 14.3 FGA per game. So similar efficiency, but getting his shot a bit more.

 

[weepinwillow]

KG's legacy was ruined because of the skinny jeans he's been wearing...

Jokes aside, I think people dislike KG because of his personality, picking on people smaller than him and joining that Celtics team. But unless you're using things outside of basketball or didn't really watch him play, you should easily be able to say he was generational.

But personally, I think if he thickens out, Mobley can be a perfect hybrid of Garnett and Mourning.

Mourning is a weird choice, Allen is more Mourning than Mobley, imo. I see KG 100%, but with a Timmy personality (which would have made for the best version of KG).

Mobley as KG, Garland as an upper-middle-class Steve Nash and Allen as Zo/Ralph Sampson.. I've been thinking about that Hakeem/Ralph Houston team that should have done more after the Finals loss to the C's. Built on two long bigmen who could move.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Here I am!

I was always pretty clear about criticizing his shot creation abilities (eg creating his own shot).

In my defense I watched every single offensive possession available on YouTube from his college game (like 15 games? idk) including posting a literal play by play analysis over a five or so game span pointing out pretty woeful offense including a bad handle, very poor post game/touch, and predictable driving game. And streaky/slow jumper. You can go through my post history, I was begging people to provide video that showed otherwise, but what I watched was him miss about 75% of the shots he created for himself which made me believe his FG% was largely from assisted FG's (which I asked if anyone had the stats for).

I think his handle is still "not great", his post game has been streaky, and driving game has been so-so. He looked the same in summer league as he did in college (bad).

Part of it was a handful of people comparing his offense to Durant.

His defensive presence has been outstanding ofc, I don't think anyone expected him to contribute this much so soon.

Still only 15 games in, we will see where he goes from here.

Hey man, kudos to you owning it.

Think I just gave you like the 10th like I've ever given out in my decade here on RCF just for that. Need more of that here.

 

[Kouki]

Really? Let me tell you about all the other dumb shit I've said on here!

 

[foucault87]

Well I've never had a bad take on here

 

[kookoo]

Mourning is a weird choice, Allen is more Mourning than Mobley, imo. I see KG 100%, but with a Timmy personality (which would have made for the best version of KG).

Mobley as KG, Garland as an upper-middle-class Steve Nash and Allen as Zo/Ralph Sampson.. I've been thinking about that Hakeem/Ralph Houston team that should have done more after the Finals loss to the C's. Built on two long bigmen who could move.

Mourning was an incredible shot blocker and shot changer. He also had a good 3 pointer, better than KG. But he has KG's athleticism, post game, perimeter defending ability. Ect.

 

[B Mac]

Mourning was an incredible shot blocker and shot changer. He also had a good 3 pointer, better than KG. But he has KG's athleticism, post game, perimeter defending ability. Ect.

Had to look it up to make sure I wasn’t completely off base. Did I read it wrong? You’re saying Zo had a good 3 point shot?

 

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