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Evan Mobley: 2023 All Defensive 1st Team

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Is Evan Mobley the Greatest Player of All Time?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 38.4%
  • Yes

    Votes: 21 16.8%
  • Yes

    Votes: 7 5.6%
  • YAAASSS!!!

    Votes: 36 28.8%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 27 21.6%

  • Total voters
    125
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Priceless! The greatest coach and the greatest defender working with one of the greatest shooting centers of all time. Macadoo has more scoring titles than Durant--and double-digit rebounds.
 
Watching some of the recent stuff Embiid has been up to gave me a thought. For the guys who are able to watch every game, do we see Mobley bring it up in semi-transition off of a rebound at all? He has better handling and vision than Embiid already and this has been something Joel added to really increase his impact on the game without Simmons. KG used to do it too. I'd love to see Mobley add that to his game.
 
Watching some of the recent stuff Embiid has been up to gave me a thought. For the guys who are able to watch every game, do we see Mobley bring it up in semi-transition off of a rebound at all? He has better handling and vision than Embiid already and this has been something Joel added to really increase his impact on the game without Simmons. KG used to do it too. I'd love to see Mobley add that to his game.
He has done that successfully every once in awhile, so it is something he has in his bag of tricks. He is always susceptible to getting stripped whenever and wherever he dribbles and he'll need to improve in being able to avoid, prevent, and counter that.
 
Mobley has bulked up significantly at least through my own eyes. Definitely in his upper body. He has also gotten much stronger.

This kids work ethic and coachability is off the charts.

He is a real silent assassin.
 
Mobley has bulked up significantly at least through my own eyes. Definitely in his upper body. He has also gotten much stronger.
Hard to believe.

For most guys, just staying AT their playing weight is a struggle during the regular season. Never mind bulking up.

In fact, Mobley may look like he has some more muscle definition now because he's lost some baby fat during the season. He plays pretty crazy minutes for a rookie.
 
Hard to believe.

For most guys, just staying AT their playing weight is a struggle during the regular season. Never mind bulking up.

In fact, Mobley may look like he has some more muscle definition now because he's lost some baby fat during the season. He plays pretty crazy minutes for a rookie.

Comparing him to how he looked in USC, he definitely bulked up signicantly and added muscle definition.

Now, in SL he was physically overmatched by absolute scrubs. Now he is going at people in the post, sometimes forces his will, depending on the matchup.

His upper body frame is good. Will have to see how he fills up his lower half.
 
Mobley seem to have bad games against NOP just like how Kyrie cant have a good game against the raptors when he was a rookie because of Calderon.
 
Slamming into the rookie wall right now. The break should do him good. Hoping his team loses right away in that weird rookie tournament.
 
The book is out on how to play against Evan and Jarrett. Get strong guys with lower center of gravity, and just push and bulldoze them all over the place. When they get the ball just slap, grab and claw the hell out of them. The refs allow it all day long so why not?

Both guys as well as the coaches need to figure out how to counter this strategy and make them pay for it, otherwise it will continue and increase.

I have noticed that Evan is starting to selectively and carefully put those sharp elbows to use. He's going to have to hone this as a way to get retribution for all the guys constantly undercutting him and doing him dirty down low, (or as AC would say, "below the waist"). So far he's been really smart about it and you'd bever notice except for defenders coming out of a cluster wincing and rubbing their sternums.
 
The book is out on how to play against Evan and Jarrett. Get strong guys with lower center of gravity, and just push and bulldoze them all over the place. When they get the ball just slap, grab and claw the hell out of them. The refs allow it all day long so why not?

I agree that the traditional low post NBA bigman can challenge Even and Jarrett. But at the same time, those "low center of gravity guys" are not usually good at defending in space. Seems like the Cavs should be able to scheme them off the floor using Mobley's outside shooting or Allen's pick and roll game. Having a PG & Wing that can hit their 3pt shots is kind of necessary to make that work though, so you might have to sit Okoro & Rondo to make that work.

Here's a great write up about Mobley (and Allen, btw)


Mobley, meanwhile, is what the term “unicorn” is meant for in sports. At 20 years old and in his first pro season, it’s obvious watching him that he’s still learning the nuances of NBA defense — and yet he’s a consensus top-15 impact defender in all our metrics.
Rim protection? Easy. Mobley is allowing a field-goal percentage of 52.5 as the primary rim defender, one of the 15 lowest numbers in the league (among players with at least 100 field goals defended) — just decimals below teammate Allen and on more attempts against.
Defending in space? Not a problem. Guards can sometimes beat him with a quick first step, but he’s so long and fluid that he’s often back in the picture before they expect it: (video clips)
The Cleveland Cavaliers allow under 0.8 points per chance on any possession featuring an isolation against Mobley that ends in a shot, foul or turnover, per Second Spectrum; that number is still elite even when filtered only for quicker guards like LaVine, Trae Young or Devin Booker. He’s already a fully switchable weapon.
Cavs coach J.B. Bickerstaff has even experimented with Mobley as the top-of-the-key hub for Cleveland’s occasional zone defense. The numbers are uneven — largely because, again, Mobley is still learning. Still, you see possessions on which the length of Mobley and his teammates, combined with such an unusual defensive alignment, are flummoxing good offenses: (video clips)
Few players in modern history, if any, have held such a high defensive ceiling at this age. His presence near the top of several quality metrics at such an early stage of his career, even as he clearly digests elements of defense in real time, should terrify 29 other teams.
 
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Mobley has made 54% of his free throws in 2022. I'm sorry, but that is Shaq-like. He has to rebuild his FT technique from the gound up next offseason.

He's a guy who already gets fouled a lot, and he'll get fouled even more if he's that shaky from the line. He has a high release point on his jumper and that's fine, but I'm not sure it makes sense to shoot his free throws like someone's trying to block them.
 
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Mobley has made 54% of his free throws in 2022. I'm sorry, but that is Shaq-like. He has to rebuild his FT technique from the gound up next offseason.

He's a guy who already gets fouled a lot, and he'll get fouled even more if he's that shaky from the line. He has a high release point on his jumper and that's fine, but I'm not sure it makes sense to shoot his free throws like someone's trying to block them.
yes. mobley shot 70+% in 2021, not sure what happened after new year as his shooting got worse.
 

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