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Evan Mobley: 2023 All Defensive 1st Team

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Is Evan Mobley the Greatest Player of All Time?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 38.7%
  • Yes

    Votes: 21 16.9%
  • Yes

    Votes: 7 5.6%
  • YAAASSS!!!

    Votes: 36 29.0%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 26 21.0%

  • Total voters
    124
I dont think playing on a winning team has hurt Evan at all because on both ends he plays a winning style of basketball.

It has hurt his numbers because on a bad team Evan is a 20 point scorer, and thus would be getting even more recognition.

But make no mistake, Evan is a big part of why we are winning, so there is the chicken and egg issue saying if he was on a lesser team. He is probably our 2nd best all around player now, and that isnt a dig on Garland, just how good Mobley really is.
I think it has helped him overall, but I also think his individual offensive skill development would be better if he were on a team that needed him to take 18 shots a game. But I think developing your play-making and decision making in a winning environment is worth more than developing a few extra one on one skills faster. Those will come with time still and you can see his individual skill growth is pretty remarkable regardless.
 
And definitely better than all the potential downsides playing on loser teams. Plenty of guys get bad attitude and bad habits filling stat sheets for no reason on losing teams.
 
Usually top 3 picks like Mobley don't have the benefit of learning to play winning team basketball in the NBA in their early seasons. They're on bad teams and just given a green light to go dribble and shoot. To some extent it's hurt him in that I think some of his offensive skills might be a little further along, but in the big picture he's learning to play the game the right way. He lets the game and how the defense reacts dictate his actions. He's a good playmaker as a result and backs it up with the ability to finish and a growing bag of moves and counters. He doesn't really take bad shots. He makes a big impact on the boards and defense. I think over the short term this is going to make his offensive skill development a bit slower than his peers, but his development into playing a winning brand of basketball is going to pay off. And, unlike most of his comparable draft peers, he's going to get some playoff experience in his sophomore season. Mobley is going to go into the this offseason with a new understanding of what the peak looks like and what it takes to win playoff series. I'm thrilled for his future.
Didn’t seem to hurt Tim Duncan :tongue:
 
Didn’t seem to hurt Tim Duncan :tongue:
terrible comparison. Duncan was still in college and preparing for another year in college. I am still pissed the Cavs didn't tank instead of forcing a wasteful contention junk in 1997........but I digress......Mobley was and is raw. He needs the touches.
 
This is from The Ringer article upthread. For context, Nicol is his mom, Eric his dad. This part really jumped out at me:

"Then, as a freshman, he broke his right wrist. The stretch of time forced Mobley to slow down and confront what was in front of him. “It was an opportunity for him to take the challenge to say, ‘OK, what else can you do in this moment?’” Nicol says. “His intake of information, it’s just high and fast. So you have to keep him busy, keep his mind occupied, because he’s a thinker and he’s always processing.” Knowing he also loved a challenge, Nicol, an elementary school teacher, told Evan about kids she knew who could write with both of their hands. He soon became ambidextrous.

I’m a very mental person. I feel like if you can master your mind, you can master your body,” Mobley says. “It’s perspective. A lot of people think things are harder than what it actually is. I mean, a lot of things are easy.”

Mobley could be referencing any dozen of the incredibly difficult on-court responsibilities he pulls off without breaking a sweat, but his specific example here is … something else. “Last year, I picked up bowling and then started being super good at that. I saw some of my teammates that were good at it,” he says. “Once I see how easy it is for someone else, I’m like, ‘Why can’t I?’ That’s what I think.”

His list of random skills could fill a talent show’s playbill. Most are acquired from YouTube tutorials. He can juggle and do yo-yo tricks. Recently, Mobley wanted to crack the Rubik’s Cube. It took him a few days to figure out how. “Now I can do it in probably, like, a minute,” he says. As a child, Mobley trained himself to play Beethoven on a baby grand piano.

"I don’t want to say he’s weird. He just has superpowers, so to speak,” Eric laughs. “What I mean by that is, like, everything is self-taught....


What makes Mobley so special is between his ears.
 
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This is from The Ringer article upthread. For context, Nicol is his mom, Eric his dad. This part really jumped out at me:

"Then, as a freshman, he broke his right wrist. The stretch of time forced Mobley to slow down and confront what was in front of him. “It was an opportunity for him to take the challenge to say, ‘OK, what else can you do in this moment?’” Nicol says. “His intake of information, it’s just high and fast. So you have to keep him busy, keep his mind occupied, because he’s a thinker and he’s always processing.” Knowing he also loved a challenge, Nicol, an elementary school teacher, told Evan about kids she knew who could write with both of their hands. He soon became ambidextrous.

I’m a very mental person. I feel like if you can master your mind, you can master your body,” Mobley says. “It’s perspective. A lot of people think things are harder than what it actually is. I mean, a lot of things are easy.”

Mobley could be referencing any dozen of the incredibly difficult on-court responsibilities he pulls off without breaking a sweat, but his specific example here is … something else. “Last year, I picked up bowling and then started being super good at that. I saw some of my teammates that were good at it,” he says. “Once I see how easy it is for someone else, I’m like, ‘Why can’t I?’ That’s what I think.”

His list of random skills could fill a talent show’s playbill. Most are acquired from YouTube tutorials. He can juggle and do yo-yo tricks. Recently, Mobley wanted to crack the Rubik’s Cube. It took him a few days to figure out how. “Now I can do it in probably, like, a minute,” he says. As a child, Mobley trained himself to play Beethoven on a baby grand piano.

"I don’t want to say he’s weird. He just has superpowers, so to speak,” Eric laughs. “What I mean by that is, like, everything is self-taught....


What makes Mobley so special is between his ears.

Seems like a very David Robinson like personality who had a wide variety of interests and picked up things very easily that normal humans cannot.
 
Here's an interesting statistical comparison of the four DPOY candidates:

 
Seems like a very David Robinson like personality who had a wide variety of interests and picked up things very easily that normal humans cannot.

Certainly the classical piano playing is a reminder of Robinson. Mobley may be even more introverted and analytical then Robinson, who was still a pretty social guy. Mobley's mom tells him that there are kids who can write with either
hands, so he then decides to become ambidextrous and does so? What the hell kind of freakishness is that?

That drive to analyze and master everything he sees means that he's really competing against himself all the time. He'll always be looking for ways to improve because he'll always have that vision of perfection in his head towards which he is striving.

I've loved to hear what a sports psychologist says about that, because I'm guessing that's about the ideal mental makeup for a professional athlete.
 
Here's an interesting statistical comparison of the four DPOY candidates:


As far as I can tell, the defensive metrics being used generally pertain to points at the rim and in the paint. There doesn't seem to be any separate consideration given to perimeter defense.
 
As far as I can tell, the defensive metrics being used generally pertain to points at the rim and in the paint. There doesn't seem to be any separate consideration given to perimeter defense.
Yes, that jumped out at me. It's as if big men don't defend the perimeter. Or, the person has an ax to grind and omitted those stats.
 

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