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Usually, good prospects have more value in trade than in actual near future (6 years) production.
IMO it's kind of like penny stocks. You can lose small a lot of times when they don't, or win very big when they come through. Getting close to nothing most of the time isn't alone a justification for trading but yep the proven veteran is much safer. You can trade 10 Bieber or JRam level prospects and lose close to nothing, but the one time that it's Bieber makes it bad. But yeah sometimes you just have to take that risk.
 
Dam I thought Lindor was coming around , now he has stuck out 6 out of las 7 ab.......Maybe he needs to another teammate fight.......lmao
 
Max Moroff called up from Memphis by the Cardinals - IIRC, he came over from Pburgh with Luplow
 
Dam I thought Lindor was coming around , now he has stuck out 6 out of las 7 ab.......Maybe he needs to another teammate fight.......lmao
Maybe it’s the fluorescent green hair color.:puke::puke:and he muffs a high chopperwith bases loaded to let in two runs. LMAO2. Or maybe it’s the bright yellow shoes?
 
Maybe it’s the fluorescent green hair color.:puke::puke:and he muffs a high chopperwith bases loaded to let in two runs. LMAO2. Or maybe it’s the bright yellow shoes?
Isn't that a natural thing when showering with NYC water?
 
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    Lindor is another bust
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    Even I'm beginning to think that the Indians punched the Mets on Lindor. And I've been his biggest booster counseling patience. But my patience is running out.
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    I think Lindor needs to stop coloring his hair and stop smirking and smiling and just play. That snicker is starting to resemble or remind me of Bobby Bonilla and that's not a good thing!
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    Yeah Lindor sucks but his hair might just be worse.

    There are good ways to dye your hair and have it look nice - see Jazz Chisholm. Lindor looks like an incel who just watched the Joker.
 
New hilarious commercial featuring Bartolo Colon.

 
New hilarious commercial featuring Bartolo Colon.

Looks like there are 3 different versions...
 
How many people in here were bitching and moaning during spring training because he hit a few meatballs?
I'll admit to bitching and moaning he wasn't given a shot in 2020 when we were playing Mike Freeman in LF and the rest of the OF wasn't much better. Tom was outstanding at Columbus in 2019 and I just couldn't understand why he wouldn't get a look. I chalked it up to little man bias and a lack of imagination on our part to see a guy who simply had a knack for playing the game.

He is "rocking" a .385 OBP for the Pirates so far, along with a 99 OPS+ and even hit his first major league homer...nowhere to go but up after his atrocious minute in Oakland.
 
Tom may have the lowest exit velocity in baseball at 81.5.

I'm not sure a ball can stay in the air at 81.5, but we may never know, because he bangs 55% of his balls into the ground.

The thing that gets me is he has been walked 16.3% of the time.

Why?
Because Tom understands what most major league hitters (in all their anxiety) fail to recognize...that most major league pitchers, for all their advancements in velocity and stuff, still can't throw three strikes before they throw four balls. It's why Carlos Santana is a genius. Carlos has always been mediocre bat-to-ball, but if you can be patient--unlike most current Tribe hitters--and don't get nervous going deep in counts, you too can walk a lot in the major leagues, even if you aren't an imposing hitter. And Tom is very short! That helps too!
 
UpdatedTrade challenge:

Francisco Lindor (bWAR): 0.0

Andres Gimenez 0.3 + Amed Rosario 0.1 = 0.4

Lindor Prediction Challenge (using fWAR)

Derek (5+ fWAR; over 800 OPS)
Out of the Rafters (3.4 fWAR; .767 OPS)
LL3 (3.5 fWAR; .769 OPS)

To date: 0.1 fWAR, .582 OPS

We've passed the 20% mark in the season. It's not pretty. And neither is that Philly Phanatic chartreuse hair.

Quote of the Day, after Monday's game:

"I don’t play tennis, I don’t play golf. I’m not by myself," Lindor said. "I play a team sport. So understanding that my teammates are really good at what they do and I don’t have to be the man every single night. I just got to be a part of the puzzle."
 
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Quote of the Day, after Monday's game:

"I don’t play tennis, I don’t play golf. I’m not by myself," Lindor said. "I play a team sport. So understanding that my teammates are really good at what they do and I don’t have to be the man every single night. I just got to be a part of the puzzle."

Quotes like this only make him look like an idiot, dude has no desire to be among the league's best players. He's well on his way to being the leagues worst contract.
 
Quotes like this only make him look like an idiot, dude has no desire to be among the league's best players. He's well on his way to being the leagues worst contract.
I consider baseball to be more of an individual sport, especially for a position player. If there's a ball hit to you nobody can help you. You either make the play or you don't. Totally individual. Teamwork only comes into play on pop-ups where players need to communicate. Same with hitting. When the ball leaves the pitcher's hand there's not a darn thing your teammates can do to help you.

Even on double plays the shortstops job is either making the throw on time and on target, which is an individual skill, or executing the catch-and-throw with proper footwork and throwing accuracy which is another individual skill.

Lindor is struggling at the plate which is totally individual. When you're in the batter's box you are by yourself.
 
Carlos Santana not only knows the strike as well as anybody, he makes consistent contact. He has a career K rate under 16, which should be impossible with his swing. His problem isn't contact, it is that his swing does not give him the ability to be anything, but a dead pull hitter.

Tom was never a prospect, in spite of his MiLB numbers, because he is one of the weakest hitters in baseball. If you remember Bauers' slow rolling seeing eye single last night....the exit velocity of that hit was what Tom averages. He can put all the 82 MPH rollers in play as he wants to, but they will not amount to anything.
 

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