Ex Indians update

[PIP]

This is what peak performance looks like!

 

[DCTribefan]

This is what peak performance looks like!

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The guy on the right is a dead ringer for one of our posters.

 

[mrWalrus]

Kluber! No Hitter against the Rangers!

 

[Criznit]

No hitter for Kluber!!!!! Well done old man!!!

 

[macbdog]

Uh he still has to pitch the 9th.

Edit: Yahoo sports behind by half a freaking inning wth. Freaking awesome for Corey! Would have been awesome to have seen him back here, propping up the new Big Three Instead we get Eddie Rosario swinging at everything and a guy to block all our MIFers for two years.

 

[mrWalrus]

Uh he still has to pitch the 9th.

this won't age well...

 

[Kevalier]

Thrilled for Klubes. Future Indians Hall of Famer and the second best pitcher in franchise history behind Bob Feller.

 

[KluberSociety]

Thrilled for Klubes. Future Indians Hall of Famer and the second best pitcher in franchise history behind Bob Feller.

Stan Coveleski, Mel Harder, and Sam McDowell were able to accumulate significantly more WAR by virtue of logging way more innings with Cleveland. Especially by bWAR Coveleski dominates Kluber. But it was such a different game where they wouldn't get that kind of opportunity today. It's probably hardest to make the case for Kluber over McDowell though.

Kluber was probably a better pitcher than all of them but just didn't really achieve that "greatness" of an extended career (98 W).

 

[AZ_]

Kluber deserves all of the good things.

Winner.

 

[Obscured By Clouds]

Jomboys breakdown of Kluber's no-hitter:

 

[Criznit]

Jomboys breakdown of Kluber's no-hitter:

Those bobbleheads just tripled in value...

 

[KluberSociety]

I always wondered why the Indians gave up on Kluber's changeup, relegated to a 5th pitch against lefties. He did have some trouble commanding it which probably answers my own question but it seemed more like a gradual atrophy because when he got called up that was one of his better pitches.

Yankees have had Kluber throwing more changeups (including 18 in his no hitter) and less fastballs and it seems to be working and helping him make up for weaker command and velocity. I do think at some point though he might have to mix some more fastballs in if he's throwing 80% slow stuff but it's interesting how they've reworked his repertoire to a fairly fast return to being a valuable pitcher. Seeing some of his first games over there was painful to watch.

Prior to the no-hitter his most valuable pitches in outcomes were his changeup and cutter. It's almost like watching a different pitcher out there with the way he's attacking hitters.

 

[Lee]

this won't age well...

Ironically despite many of our opinions, Kluber did age well, lol

 

[jup]

I always wondered why the Indians gave up on Kluber's changeup, relegated to a 5th pitch against lefties. He did have some trouble commanding it which probably answers my own question but it seemed more like a gradual atrophy because when he got called up that was one of his better pitches.

Yankees have had Kluber throwing more changeups (including 18 in his no hitter) and less fastballs and it seems to be working and helping him make up for weaker command and velocity. I do think at some point though he might have to mix some more fastballs in if he's throwing 80% slow stuff but it's interesting how they've reworked his repertoire to a fairly fast return to being a valuable pitcher. Seeing some of his first games over there was painful to watch.

Prior to the no-hitter his most valuable pitches in outcomes were his changeup and cutter. It's almost like watching a different pitcher out there with the way he's attacking hitters.

Less FB, imagine that. Something the Indians were slow to adopt.

 

[sportscoach]

I always wondered why the Indians gave up on Kluber's changeup, relegated to a 5th pitch against lefties. He did have some trouble commanding it which probably answers my own question but it seemed more like a gradual atrophy because when he got called up that was one of his better pitches.

Yankees have had Kluber throwing more changeups (including 18 in his no hitter) and less fastballs and it seems to be working and helping him make up for weaker command and velocity. I do think at some point though he might have to mix some more fastballs in if he's throwing 80% slow stuff but it's interesting how they've reworked his repertoire to a fairly fast return to being a valuable pitcher. Seeing some of his first games over there was painful to watch.

Prior to the no-hitter his most valuable pitches in outcomes were his changeup and cutter. It's almost like watching a different pitcher out there with the way he's attacking hitters.

He's also older and cannot rely upon his fastball as much since his velocity I believe is lower than at any point when he was in Cleveland... He had to work more on his Off speed and it seems like he finally got his changeup working... Nothing out of the ordinary for an older pitcher to add/adjust a pitch when the fastball isn't as fast/as effective.