Grade Our Draft

[cdt]

Here's your chance to sound off the complete Browns draft. Over two days we've added 10 young guys to help this team win. What's your grade and why?

My Grade B We could have gotten a 5th at least out of that pick by selling Ngata, maybe enticed Philly to jump up and snatch Bunkley by selling them we wanted Ngata.

The two 4th rounders were pretty puzzling to me didn't specifically like that round.

The 3rd round WR has good and bad angles. If we really wanted a WR why not just package some late rounders and went up to grab FreeFaller Chad Jackson from Florida.

I liked the 1st pick, and I LOVED the second pick. I advise any serious Browns fan to watch the D'Qwell Jackson press conference that guy sounds about as hungry focused and mentally complete that you could want. I like that.

Wimbley looks like he could be a great OLB and will be tutored by the best

 

[PIP]

I'll go with a B as well...

I like Wimbley and Jackson as well... I have read nothing but positives on both... As long as Wimbley is much more productive than Courtney Brown, i'm cool with it... With Willie Mac as a mentor and Romeo coaching, I think he could really start off in the right direction with his career...

I keep seeing Ray Lewis comparisons to Jackson... I just won't buy into that until it's proven... I'll take Odell Thurman though... But his intensity and the ability to make the sure tackle makes him a very nice addition potentially...

I didn't have a problem with the reciever Wilson... As long as he comes as advertised... In that I mean the sure handed possession reciever that could potentially be a #2... If he does resemble David Givens and can make the tough catches and make the catch in the middle of the field with the contact coming ? I'll take it....Plus, he's a nice red zone target..

Minter, Williams, and Vickers ??? No idea about any of those guys...

I like what i've read about Oshinowo (great 6th round value), and I am intrigued by Harrison as well...

Sowells is O-LINE so there is no reason to complain..

All and all I would give a B...

 

[cdt]

I wanted Orien Harris at DT but the Steelers grabbed em up :/

 

[cavincali]

First off I will never spend my day watching the draft again, the coverage was absolutely awful.

They waited until the 16th hour of the show to interview Coach Crennel. :thumbdown

I gave the draft a C for a couple of reasons:

1. I wanted to get a fat ass DT and we didnt, we got Hisinowo. He ways a tad over 300.

2. My dad hated this draft with a passion, which made me like it a little less. I dont know why he hated the draft so much, but he was pissed.

The draft was a big disapointment in my mind.

 

[Mac]

Ill go with a D.

We didnt get market value for the trade up from Baltimore.

We gave Faine away for nothing.

We drafted a CB, a FB, and a WR, which were all useless picks and terrible selections.

We had a chance to nab Watson late, instead we pass. Terrible.

Outside of DQwell and Wimbley, there isn't a single selection I like.

I dont know how anybody could be happy with this draft. We failed to address our dire needs on the DL and selected positions we did not need in the later rounds where we could have gotten depth.

I dont know what Savage is thinking, but his first two years have not been impressive to me.

 

[RuanuLaw]

B

 

[PIP]

This guy agrees with some of us...(1 team got an A+ we were one of 2 to get an A)

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5559064

4. Cleveland: Browns GM Phil Savage probably got the most value pick-by-pick than any team in the NFL. They needed a young pass rusher and selected Kamerion Wimbley from Florida State while moving to grab Maryland linebacker D'Qwell Jackson, who was the defensive player of the year in the ACC last season. Receiver Travis Wilson had a strong Senior Bowl. Miami linebacker Leon Williams definitely fits Romeo Crennel's 3-4 scheme while Washington State running back Jerome Harrison led the Pac-10 in rushing last season while scoring 16 touchdowns. Savage may have taken the best fullback in the draft with Lawrence Vickers. Grade: A

 

[PIP]

Checkout this guy... He was giving some pretty tough grades until he got to the Browns..

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...ories/050106dnspogosselingrades.88f75981.html

 

[cdt]

Wow I thought the 9ers would have better then a C..we had the best draft according to him.

 

[Mac]

I cant agree with that at all.

I really like the first two picks, dont get me wrong.

But the third round, that should be a starter. We didnt need a WR. We didnt need a FB, we have one of the best in the league already. Honestly, we didnt need that RB. But Im ok with that pick, I see the logic in it.

We are still hurting pretty bad on the DL and we didnt do anything in the draft to help our cause there. We could have gotten atleast a fourth rounder for Faine, which coulda helped us get Watson who has talent but no work ethic.

We could have helped our cause so much more than what we did.

but then again, these grades mean nothing. These guys havent even played yet.

 

[Style]

I'll go B as well. I like the draft, and all the picks but Williams and Hamilton. Most of the picks were high value for where they were taken, and several of them were very versatile, which is a call card of New England style football. Phil got something in return for trading down, and still landed the player he wanted. What kept him from an A was 1) the two bad picks previously mentioned, especially Williams, 2) he could of gotten more for trading down and for Faine, and 3) I would of drafted completely different players.

 

[Style]

Here's the summary I emailed to my boys:

A look at Phil's draft:

1. Kamerion Wimbley DE (OLB), FSU. We traded down one slot (a reverse Butch Davis) and still grabbed the player we wanted. Very athletic, probably the best 3-4 OLB in the draft. (Hawk would probably play inside in the 3-4.) Savage says he now has his Peter Boulware.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/kamerionwimbley.html
2. D'Qwell Jackson ILB, Maryland. We traded up (Jeff Faine and our second round pick) to snag the top ILB in the draft. He was the defensive player of the year in the ACC last season, which just so happened be where Mario Williams played. He led the conference in tackles two years running. Savage says he now has his Ray Lewis. (!!!)
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ilb/dqwelljackson.html
3. Travis Wilson WR, Oklahoma. A big receiver with the best hands in the draft. Doesn't have blazing speed, but will take the crushing hit across the middle and still make the grab. A good red zone threat. Also an excellent blocker. Savage said he was by far the best player available. (of course, he would say that.)
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/traviswilson.html
4a. Leon Williams ILB, Miami. A guy who only started 6 games his college career, this was the suck pick of the draft. I don't care how well his measurables are, if he couldn't start in college how's he suppose to be able to play in the nfl?http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ilb/leonwilliams.html
4b. Isaac Sowells OL, Indiana. A big, versatile OL, who can play guard or tackle. Adds some needed depth.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/isaacsowells.html
5a. Jerome Harrison RB, WSU. A speedy, versatile back who can make plays catching the ball as well as in the return game. Very productive, being the third leading rusher in the NCAA. If he can add a few pounds and not lose speed, could be a poor mans LT.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/rb/jeromeharrison.html
5b. DeMario Minter CB, Georgia. A very good value pick, as he was projected to go on day 1. Basically the only knock on the kid is he doesn't have great hands catching the ball. If your only worries in a CB are poor hands, you don't have alot to complain about.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/demariominter.html
6a. Lawrence Vickers FB, Colorado. The best FB in the draft. A very versatile player, who can block, catch, run, backup the tail back, and play special teams.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/fb/lawrencevickers.html
6b. Babatunde Oshinowo DT, Stanford. Another kid projected to go day 1, and thus was a great value in round 6. Is basically built to play 2 gap NT in the NFL. Could be a good one in a few, studying under Washington.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/babatundeoshinowo.html
7. Justin Hamilton S (OLB), VT. Possibly the most bizzare pick of the draft. He was recruited as a running back, was moved to receiver his sophomore year and then asked to switch to safety his senior year. The Browns see Hamilton in a different light than the other teams. They project Hamilton packing on 25 pounds and developing into an outside linebacker. I can't imagine trying to learn a new position at the level of play that you see in the nfl. You do see position switches alot, but I think players probably fail as often as they succeed. At any rate, we could signed this guy undrafted. I guess if he makes the team then it wasn't a terrible pick. He does have some nice measurables: 6-3 230. Benches 340 and ran a 4.5
http://www.hokiesports.com/football...5/hamilton.html

Overall, Savage has been getting high grades. This cat in Dallas gave us the only A+: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...ories/050106dnspogosselingrades.88f75981.html
There is alot to like. Most of his picks were high value for where they were taken, and several of them were very versatile, which is a calling card of New England style football. Phil got something in return for trading down, and still landed the player he wanted. I give it a B. What kept him from an A was 1) the two bad picks of Hamilton and especially Williams, 2) he could of gotten more for trading down in round 1 and for Faine, and 3) I would of drafted completely different players.

 

[cdt]

Nice analysis I'm starting to like our draft the more beat writers and analysts praise it

 

[bomber]

First off I will never spend my day watching the draft again, the coverage was absolutely awful.

They waited until the 16th hour of the show to interview Coach Crennel. :thumbdown

I gave the draft a C for a couple of reasons:

1. I wanted to get a fat ass DT and we didnt, we got Hisinowo. He ways a tad over 300.

310 isn't bad, hampton I believe came in at 320.

He needs to gain some weight and strength, that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[bomber]

Ill go with a D.

We didnt get market value for the trade up from Baltimore.

We gave Faine away for nothing.

We drafted a CB, a FB, and a WR, which were all useless picks and terrible selections.

We had a chance to nab Watson late, instead we pass. Terrible.

Outside of DQwell and Wimbley, there isn't a single selection I like.

I dont know how anybody could be happy with this draft. We failed to address our dire needs on the DL and selected positions we did not need in the later rounds where we could have gotten depth.

I dont know what Savage is thinking, but his first two years have not been impressive to me.

well according to the value chart, the move for the ravens from 13 to 12 was worth a late 4th rounder. The 6th kinda pissed me off as well but considering we got it for FREE bc Ngata wasn't gonna be the pick all along so we just stole an extra 6th I'll take it.

As for the Faine trade, saints pick was worth 560, ours 460. The 100 point difference is a 4th round pick, so thats what he was worth. This trade made the most sense, they needed a center, we didn't need the extra pick b/c we still woulda had to give them a pick to move up

Why would we want watson?? Have you seen the wrap on this guy, he make big money look legit

The leon williams pick pissed me off at first, still kinda iffy on that, the fb pick surprised me as well. But Vickers makes sense, he's a short yardage back we need, can catch and get those extra yards.

We got a pretty darn good db, an okay gaurd that savage thinks can compete for a starting job in 07.

Wilson pick pissed me off too but in reality we did need a WR, it was a good value pick. I see the reason we picked him was Braylon not being back on time for the start of the season, jj getting older, need a possesion receiver and maybe dropcutt is on the outs after the year.