Grade Our Draft

[cavincali]

Mac lets try to use some mathematics to show why their defense had little yards but average ppg.

If a team only has to go 50 yards to score a touchdown, than the probablity that they will score is more likely. Why would they only have to go 50 yards Cali??? Because the ravens offense was so bad that they would go nowhere on offense.

No if a team got the ball on there 30 yard line they would have to go 70 yards for a touchdown and the probablity will be less likely. Why is this Cali??? Because since the ravens defense give up little ypg they would run out of land before they could score again.

Shannon Sharpe was a pretty good tight end. Ray lewis played in only 6 games as well.

I dont see the ravens as a playoff team with boller.

 

[Mac]

I just said that moron.

You gave the exact reason on why their defense, in YPG looks good. They had so many short fields to work with, that the opposing teams did not have a lof of ground to cover.

The Ravens still had a good D, don't get me wrong. Im not trying to say they are bad. But they were untouchable with a good DL and an average secondary. Now they have a very good secondary, a decent DL and nobody is scared of them. You can run on them if you want to, you can pass on them if you want to.

 

[cavincali]

Why do you have to name call bro???

Are you a 21 year old who has the mind of an elementary kid, grow up.

So I over-read your post, the part that proves my point and disproves your. In other words your arguing a point with me and arguing agaisnt yourself.

You make a comparison between the Browns defense and the Ravens, showing that the Ravens defense is not very good because there ppg is .1 off of the Browns. But than say why there defense is good. Am I missing something.

 

[PIP]

Cali,

Moron is a term of endearment...Mac is showing you manly affection.. LoL

 

[cavincali]

Hey what can I say, the LADIES, love me. :chuckles:

 

[Style]

An alternate view of our draft: http://browns.scout.com/2/527163.html

I don't agree with everything he says, but some of his points are solid. I'm a believer in drafting linemen high. Most years you should strive to have at least 1 OL and 1 DL in your first 3 or 4 picks.

 

[Mac]

Why do you have to name call bro???

Are you a 21 year old who has the mind of an elementary kid, grow up.

So I over-read your post, the part that proves my point and disproves your. In other words your arguing a point with me and arguing agaisnt yourself.

You make a comparison between the Browns defense and the Ravens, showing that the Ravens defense is not very good because there ppg is .1 off of the Browns. But than say why there defense is good. Am I missing something.

Im saying your stats do not show the entire picture. Their YPG is a reflection of how poor the offense is, not how good their defense is.

You cant sit there and tell me any team was scared of the Ravens D last year. Nobody was. They dont dominate games anymore.

 

[Mac]

For those of you that hate Green, he isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Savage, in an interview with WTAM said Will is the backup to Rube while Suggs and Harrison will be battling for #3.

Basically, say goodbye to Suggs.

 

[Style]

Basically, say goodbye to Suggs.

At this point, Suggs is worth maybe a 6th or 7th rounder, or are we looking at a straight cut here?

 

[PIP]

Man, if we could get a 6th for Suggs I would jump all over that....

 

[Mac]

Suggs cant even walk across the street without getting injured. He isnt getting a draft pick.

 

[bomber]

No to brady quinn, please no

We need d-line help, de, nt

obviously we didn't address it in the draft or much in off season. They is our biggest need still and should be imo. We still have free agents, june 1st cuts

Anyway about Quinn I would stay away from him, he throws for tons of yards against bad teams/defenses but against good defense he looks completely horrible.

Are for the rb issue, to me right now its.

rd, willie, harrison, wright, suggs in that order

it should be eventually rd, harrison, willie, wright. see ya later suggs

I think willie just needs to mature, suggs should be shown the door asap.

I didn't read all the posts about the willie debate but you can't argue the guy has talent, he got caught for weed what twice? once in college and once here. really a non issue to me but he needs maturing

Only thing to me you can question willie on is his vision a bit, blocking and running behind a fb.

 

[cdt]

We didn't address DE? We drafted Wimbley who will line up on the end on plays and as an olb to rush the passer. We used our 6th on Oshinowo a DT who was projected day 1.

 

[Smooth]

[13]. Kamerion Wimbley/OLB (Florida State) - I really like this pick. A guy who was needed to help out in the pass rush. Grade: A-

[34]. D'Qwell Jackson/ILB (Maryland) - The 2nd good pick of Day 1. A guy who will come in right away and make a good pair with Davis. His physical presence, and hard hitting style should make him an impact. Grade: A-

[78]. Travis Wilson/WR (Oklahoma) - A good value pick at this point of the draft. A guy who has a lot of potential can help out a WR corp with some questions. Grade: B

[110]. Leon Williams/ILB (Miami FL) - A good pick to provide some competition at the ILB spot. Williams should contribute on Special Teams and has potential. Grade: B

[112]. Issac Sowells/OT (Indiana) - A guy who should be a developmental player. He could become a good backup with versatility. Grade: C+

[145]. Jerome Harrison/RB (Washington State) - A great pick at this point of time. A guy who can be the scat back we need and take pressure off of Droughns. Grade: A

[152]. DeMario Minter/CB (Georgia) - A pick that could go either way. He should be good insurance for the secondary. Grade: B

[180]. Lawrence Vickers/FB (Colorado) - A pick that is basically for Speical Teams & on 3rd Down. Could be the future FB. Grade: B

[181]. Babatunde Oshinowo/NT (Stanford) - A guy who should contribute right away. Will be the future at NT. Grade: A

[222]. Justin Hamilton/S (Virginia Tech) - This was bit of a surprise with the player there. Should be a special teams guy with some value as a backup safety. Grade: C+


Overall Draft: B+ to A-

 

[bomber]

We didn't address DE? We drafted Wimbley who will line up on the end on plays and as an olb to rush the passer. We used our 6th on Oshinowo a DT who was projected day 1.

a possible 1 down de? you kidding me

so we don't need possible replace de's for roye, washington or a good starter for the other de, your comfortable with mckinley at de?

oshinowo is not a sure thing for nt who knows he might just be only a bench player. I'm not comfortable at all with our d-line