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[adam81king]

Would a trade for a player like Brandon Ingram require a sign and trade of Sexton? Or would we just be packaging multiple contracts to make money work?

For example, at Sexton's current salary, you could package Sexton + Prince + Osman to make the trade go through.

Regardless, I doubt we can land a player of Ingram's ability. But it is fun to think about the scoring potential of Garland-Green-Ingram.

If a player is under contract for the following season (like Collin is) then a sign-and-trade is *not* needed. Just have to make the salaries match and a compelling offer.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Cade has concerns about your posts.

Future bust

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

You’re concerned with picking Cade at 3? Who would you prefer? Kuminga?

Only if Mobley is on the board... if he isn't, then sure pick Cade.

 

[inliner311]

I could see the 10th pick being offered for Colin. That's about it and they would have to like him. You aren't getting Ingram

I feel like Gilbert set a high bar for what they want for Sexton because he knows it's a make or break year for Koby. If he hits on the #3 pick and everything starts to come together, Koby probably keeps his job. If JBB can't figure out how to use all the talent he has effectively, I'm not sure Koby gets another shot at hiring a head coach.

I got to think Gilbert doesn't want to start from square 1 if all of this doesn't work out. He want a new GM to come with a new vision and figure out how to make it all work. Burn Sexton for a draft pick or multiple role players isn't maintaining the over all value of him. Not hitting on #3 and losing Sexton for pieces that you can't flip for a player of his caliber again would be a huge set back to this team.

 

[The Oi]

Future bust

 

[kookoo]

Shit, so... The Cavs like Cade over Green and Mobley, and prefer Green to Mobley. Can't say that instills confidence in me as far as having trust in this FO making draft decisions.

So you're concerned about the front office because their draft board is the most rational out there. And widely accepted as the most likely order by professionals... Cade in general is the consensus #1 pick. I'd be more concerned if they take Barnes or Kuminga at 3 because both of them would be available on a trade down... I'm more concerned about the FO because they're shopping Sexton away and will more than likely get someone worse than him in. I'm concerned with the FO because they gave Love an insane extension and haven't been able to get appropriate compensation for decent players or expiring contracts outside of falling bass ackwards into Allen. Similarly concerned about how they handled KPJ. But I am not concerned at all about the fact that they're planning to pick the best player available at 3. Which will be one of Cade, Mobley or Green...In that exact order.

 

[kookoo]

Also, thanks for this @Ben. Having these insights is an extremely unique opportunity most fans don't get on other forums, so it's amazing to have you pop back in from time to time. Hope your health and fam are all well.

 

[Ozone]

Just swimming in the foggy stew of lake erie and fishing in the dark smh

 

[STAT]

Only if Mobley is on the board... if he isn't, then sure pick Cade.

It’s not at all a likely risk then, no? If Cade is available at 3, Mobley is very likely to have gone in the first two selections.

 

[MikeOC33]

Thanks Ben. Hope life is going well/healthy for you.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

It’s not at all a likely risk then, no? If Cade is available at 3, Mobley is very likely to have gone in the first two selections.

My logic doesn't sound sound ah

 

[Blazie]

Just trying to wrap my head around this, because I honestly don't understand the strategy:

Ok so... the plan was to bring Sexton off the bench and move Okoro to the 2. The front office likes Green, and would draft him. So they draft Jalen Green, and he's terrific, even though his defense is suspect.

At that point you still don't have a 3, but now you have two starting caliber SGs on the bench.

Let's even say they trade Sexton for a 3... one of Okoro or Green would still have to come off the bench. So if both Okoro and Green improve as you expect, you still have one of those two wasting game time on the pine, right? Do you then trade one of them? And for what?

Like, what is the end game here?

 

[Lee]

Shit, so... The Cavs like Cade over Green and Mobley, and prefer Green to Mobley. Can't say that instills confidence in me as far as having trust in this FO making draft decisions.

Not thinking Cade is #1 is a bit overthinking.. 20/6/2.5 throw in 1 block and 1.5 steals a game as a 6'8 true freshman shooting 40% on 3's on 6 shots a game and 85% from the line. The team won 21 games in a power 5 with a freshman dominating and the 2nd best player on the team being borderline NBA player.

I am not saying Cade is perfect, but he is most likely a future star. This is the season where all of us think we are smarter than the expert and over think things. Like those that said Lebron wouldnt be that good. Cade isnt Lebron level, but lets not overthing Cade. He is the top prospect.

For me its Mobley over Green, but its not crazy to have Green over Mobley after what Green has shown at the G-league. Both have star potential, especially Green. I just think Green has the lower floor than Mobley too.

 

[Damage]

I've heard the Lakers and Mavs have interest.

Lakers Idea;
THT+Kuzma+2025(!!) 1st for Sexton

Mavs Idea:
Brunson + Green + 2022 1st for Sexton

Kinda digging the Mavs deal.

 

[Sebastian]

Just trying to wrap my head around this, because I honestly don't understand the strategy:

Ok so... the plan was to bring Sexton off the bench and move Okoro to the 2. The front office likes Green, and would draft him. So they draft Jalen Green, and he's terrific, even though his defense is suspect.

At that point you still don't have a 3, but now you have two starting caliber SGs on the bench.

Let's even say they trade Sexton for a 3... one of Okoro or Green would still have to come off the bench. So if both Okoro and Green improve as you expect, you still have one of those two wasting game time on the pine, right? Do you then trade one of them? And for what?

Like, what is the end game here?

Okoro is a guy who could be brought along slowly while he develops his offensive game.

I don't think there is a push for him to start, though if the situation were right he could start as a defensive anchor on the team.

With Garland at Point, and another big scorer at SF, it would be perfectly acceptable to start Okoro as a sort of 3-D guy whose offensive game is not immediately needed.

Over the years either Okoro develops his game and becomes a great player in his own right, at which point one of the two would be traded unless one can play SF (a good problem to have), or Okoro never becomes as good as Green, but is still an useful, and affordable, 3-D piece off the bench or as a spot starter at 2 or 3.