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[MirORich]

Lakers Idea;
THT+Kuzma+2025(!!) 1st for Sexton

Mavs Idea:
Brunson + Green + 2022 1st for Sexton

Kinda digging the Mavs deal.

Next 1st that the Mavs can trade during this offseason is their 2025.

2021 and 2023 goes to the Knicks. Stephen rule wipes out 2022 and 2024.

In both cases, would need Mavs or Lakers picks to have minimal to zero protections on them for me to even consider.

I could see Lakers offering that deal IF and only if they feel confident they have a S&T worked out where they trade Schroeder elsewhere for someone who can at least contribute to their top 8 rotation. Their delusional fans would also kill them for that deal, blind believing the same package should/could get them Lillard or Beal

 

[dark2332]

Lakers Idea;
THT+Kuzma+2025(!!) 1st for Sexton

Mavs Idea:
Brunson + Green + 2022 1st for Sexton

Kinda digging the Mavs deal.

Aside from the Mavs trade being illegal by the Stepien Rule, both of these deals suck for Cleveland—with all due respect.

I would elaborate further, but I just don’t particularly want a single one of those players on the Cavs unless you gave them to me for free. And the 2025 picks. I mean, shit, that may as well be a savings bond.

THT is a RFA, so he’d have to be a sign and trade which can’t be done in a deal with another player.

I know I’m being picky, but I simply keep Sexton if these are the offers.

 

[Damage]

Aside from the Mavs trade being illegal by the Stepien Rule, both of these deals suck for Cleveland—with all due respect.

I would elaborate further, but I just don’t particularly want a single one of those players on the Cavs unless you gave them to me for free. And the 2025 picks. I mean, shit, that may as well be a savings bond.

THT is a RFA, so he’d have to be a sign and trade which can’t be done in a deal with another player.

I know I’m being picky, but I simply keep Sexton if these are the offers.

All fair points although I'm higher on Brunson than most. I'm probably keeping Sexton as well in these scenarios.

The one that gets me going is a package around OG to Cavs. Again I'm an idiot and have 0 idea what Collin's trade value is.

 

[dark2332]

All fair points although I'm higher on Brunson than most. I'm probably keeping Sexton as well in these scenarios.

The one that gets me going is a package around OG to Cavs. Again I'm an idiot and have 0 idea what Collin's trade value is.

I would gladly take OG. The issue there isn't so much value, it may be good value-wise, I just don't see Toronto needing a small scoring guard when they have FVV.

 

[Blazie]

Okoro is a guy who could be brought along slowly while he develops his offensive game.

I don't think there is a push for him to start, though if the situation were right he could start as a defensive anchor on the team.

With Garland at Point, and another big scorer at SF, it would be perfectly acceptable to start Okoro as a sort of 3-D guy whose offensive game is not immediately needed.

Over the years either Okoro develops his game and becomes a great player in his own right, at which point one of the two would be traded unless one can play SF (a good problem to have), or Okoro never becomes as good as Green, but is still an useful, and affordable, 3-D piece off the bench or as a spot starter at 2 or 3.

I guess what i was very sloppily trying to get at is that trading Sexton, benching okoro and drafting green (which is how it would kinda have to happen) means that you have Garland and Green in the backcourt.

In this case, your backcourt has not improved at all defensively, which was the primary purpose behind trading Sexton in the first place (by "you" i am of course referring to the front office). And with okoro on the bench and some other player playing the 3 (the guy you traded Sexton for), you might actually be getting worse defensively.

I'll concede that I'm probably missing something important here...

 

[The Oi]

I'm an idiot

 

[Douglar]

Next 1st that the Mavs can trade during this offseason is their 2025.

2021 and 2023 goes to the Knicks. Stephen rule wipes out 2022 and 2024.

In both cases, would need Mavs or Lakers picks to have minimal to zero protections on them for me to even consider.

I could see Lakers offering that deal IF and only if they feel confident they have a S&T worked out where they trade Schroeder elsewhere for someone who can at least contribute to their top 8 rotation. Their delusional fans would also kill them for that deal, blind believing the same package should/could get them Lillard or Beal

Mavs can trade those picks, they just need to get a first round pick in return. It can be a late first round pick, or it can be a year earlier or a year later.

 

[Muffinalt]

Just trying to wrap my head around this, because I honestly don't understand the strategy:

Ok so... the plan was to bring Sexton off the bench and move Okoro to the 2. The front office likes Green, and would draft him. So they draft Jalen Green, and he's terrific, even though his defense is suspect.

At that point you still don't have a 3, but now you have two starting caliber SGs on the bench.

Let's even say they trade Sexton for a 3... one of Okoro or Green would still have to come off the bench. So if both Okoro and Green improve as you expect, you still have one of those two wasting game time on the pine, right? Do you then trade one of them? And for what?

Like, what is the end game here?

I understand what you're saying and I think there is merit to it.

It looks like Okoro at the 3 long term is only feasible I'd we have a 1 or a 2 that's a pretty good defender. Green and Garland isn't that (although I think Green could be decent with time, strength and teaching).

Bringing him off the bench is completely fine of course and you'll need to stagger Green and Garland a little bit anyway, but its not a must, more like a luxury.

I keep thinking how much more could Sexton and Okoro bring back together as opposed to Collin alone. It could open up new level of prospects. Would those two be enough for Ingram for example?

Would suck to lose our two most culture driving pieces but roster fit wise it could net us someone very interesting.