cdt said:
What were we talking about in here...if I have to get all intellectual I guess it's what I'll have to do...
yeah like getting all intellectual is such a bad thing....
Point is I'm sick of the Indians going after bargain basement Free Agents...
not sure what you are expecting, but if you really think the Indians are going to sign a big monied free agent you might want to consider following another team - its not going to happen, didn't happen under Jacobs and won't happen under Dolan....
we have the money but our owner is cheap..
Jacobs was actually the cheap one - when the Indians were making money like crazy Hart didn't make the Pedro Martinez deal because he knew Jacobs would never sign him...
we have the horses in the Farm System to make deals but we don't...I understand we don't want to mortgage the future but at what position are we really thin at that we can't afford to deal a couple of minor leaguers? I understand we have some exception AAA and AA teams but that's not really doing much on the Cleveland Indians wins and loss total..
We can't have 1st and 2nd year players at every position, it's just not going to happen..we need to deal some AAA guys at positions of cluster...IE 3rd Base,
You mean like Kevin Kouzmanoff? Oh wait, he was already traded.
if the Indians had talent at second that was major league ready do you think they would have traded for Barfield? the truth is the talent the Indians have at second is career minor league variety....
2 years ago that would have been right - but Garko graduated to the big leagues, and the others - Head and Mulhern especially - took a big step backwards - so the idea of trading any of them and getting something useful in return, even as part of a package, seems far fetched at best....
The only possibility that you suggested that is worth doing - and once again i wonder what you are expecting in return.
I think we have the MLB Record with most Catchers in a single franchise A AA AAA and the Majors with 53.
if this is your example of getting all intellectual, its not working....
We need a power hitter a guy who can protect Haf and Grady..Grady is the speedy on base hitter and Hafner is the hoss that drives them all in. We can't rely on Hafner to be the sole run producer..granted Peralta "hopefully" will break out of the sophomore slump we need some beef in the batting order particularly a corner outfielder like Carlos Lee...err never mind that.
You mean the same Carlos Lee who has been described as a DH in waiting? Do you honestly expect the Indians to be in the running for FA's like this? This team never will be in the running for players like that - they weren't under Jacobs, and they won't be under Dolan - until revinue sharing becomes a real thing.
There isn't anyone on the market to help in the Pen really...unless we're sticking with the Free Agent technique of the last few years where we just sign some washed up guy on the cheap hoping he can pass as a legit closer/middle reliever/ setup man whatever the case may be. So we'll have to get creative and fashion up a trade or just hope to god we can give the pen 10 or more runs to work with and hope for the best.
This is the point where we need to package up some Minor Leaguers and get some solid guys in there to protect the leads our starters give them. Shapiro is a solid GM he just can't do much with the resources he has been given..or not given.
Unless if you find a team doing a salary dump during the offseason, that is just not going to happen.
Hopefully I've proven that I know what I'm talking about and you can either add something to the thread or dissolved like the others who call me out. I'm an Indians fan but I have no problem calling them what they are...they're garbage as of right now...we sat pat the last few years signing middle aged Utility Infielders looking for one final contract before giving up the game..and banking on the improvement of the youngins'..
Once again, not sure what you are expecting, but somehow i think you have set up a self fulfilling prophecy - you want things to happen that you know will not happen, so when they don't happen you can go back to your pithy little one line inanities.