Isaac 3 & D Okoro - A Two Way Playing Basketball Savant

[weepinwillow]

This is a first for our team. We’ve never had so many young kids. We had Hot Rod, Brad, Ron, Mark and Kevin in the span of three years but they all had significant college experience. Daugherty for example had four years with Dean Smith; our three young bucks had fewer years of college combined.

Well, someone is forgetting that Wagner, Miles, Davis, Diop, Boozer, Parker group like it didn't happen. Seriously, have you ever seen a group of guys more upset about being on an NBA team than the guys below?

I continue to believe Pops would kill someone to get Okoro. He’s got everything needed to develop into a very good all around basketball player. Jimmy Butler sees it, and a guy like Jimmy doesn’t just pass around compliments (he’s more likely to dump on someone who underachieves).

I agree, Popovich would have this kid in the convo for an all defensive team by next year.
People keep posting that he needs to add so much, but he really doesn't. If you want to know what "raw" looks like from a talent stand point, go back and watch the highlights from that 2002 team. A ton of athletic ability with like zero hoops IQ. The only guy who turned out any good was the one with sub athletic ability and plus hoops IQ.

 

[2 For The Brew]

Well, someone is forgetting that Wagner, Miles, Davis, Diop, Boozer, Parker group like it didn't happen.

No thanks for reminding me of that group of numb nuts. Fair point though.

 

[MNCavsfan]

I think a lot of us want Okoro to become at least a solid 3&D guy. At the beginning of the season he was giving a lot of defensive effort but sometimes seemed lost. He seems to have settled in a bit more and I see him having to recover with extra effort a bit less often. When it comes to the 3 part, his shooting was abysmal (31.2% from 3 on the season). However, I think we're seeing signs that his shot is developing. He's shot 39.1% from 3 in the last 10 games. If he can sustain shooting like that while playing D he'll get an NBA pay check for years to come.

Okoro was always going to be a project and he has looked like it, but at least he's finally starting to show signs that he has a future valuable role in the NBA.

 

[cabs]

First time I have ever seen him take a mid range shot and he drilled that bitch

 

[I'mWithDan]

I don’t know why exactly but he seemed to just randomly find his confidence again, which is nice to see. Make or miss, he needed to just pull the trigger on open 3’s and he has finally been doing that.

Hopefully consistently taking those 3’s will start to open some driving lanes for him.

 

[Cavatt]

Nice to see him keep firing after missing 2 threes in a row. I love how the hesitation is going away. Shoot, drive or pass quickly.

 

[daytripper]

I don’t know why exactly but he seemed to just randomly find his confidence again, which is nice to see. Make or miss, he needed to just pull the trigger on open 3’s and he has finally been doing that.

Hopefully consistently taking those 3’s will start to open some driving lanes for him.

The past few games Love and Delly have really opened the floor for Okoro and created some easy opportunities for him. Not having a vet PG or shotmaker probably hurt Okoro more than anyone else on this roster. It's really nice to see these little glimpses of what Okoro could be one day though.

 

[weepinwillow]

I don’t know why exactly but he seemed to just randomly find his confidence again, which is nice to see. Make or miss, he needed to just pull the trigger on open 3’s and he has finally been doing that.

Hopefully consistently taking those 3’s will start to open some driving lanes for him.

I do.

He's playing with guys who know how to move the ball. Love and Delly coming back and the better play of Garland while putting Sexton off the ball all make Okoro's real talent shine. Hopefully we get Nance and Allen back soon, those guys will add to it all.

It's not that he was shooting without confidence or playing without confidence prior to that, he was just playing what the game would give him in the flow and the team had no flow.

 

[Cavatt]

I do.

He's playing with guys who know how to move the ball. Love and Delly coming back and the better play of Garland while putting Sexton off the ball all make Okoro's real talent shine. Hopefully we get Nance and Allen back soon, those guys will add to it all.

It's not that he was shooting without confidence or playing without confidence prior to that, he was just playing what the game would give him in the flow and the team had no flow.

Totally agree. I do wonder what that means for playoffs in the future. If can't score efficiently, will he score at all?

His finishing has really been improved and that was something I was always excited about and said would translate due to NBA spacing, which the team hasn't had until Love came back.

 

[weepinwillow]

Totally agree. I do wonder what that means for playoffs in the future. If can't score efficiently, will he score at all?

His finishing has really been improved and that was something I was always excited about and said would translate due to NBA spacing, which the team hasn't had until Love came back.

I think he grows as a one on one player, but I doubt he'll ever be a #1 kind of "give him the ball to get a bucket" guy.

 

["MVP"]

Okoro strikes me as a player that the Heat, Jazz, Spurs, Dubs a few years ago, etc. would absolutely love to have. Teams with systems predicated on ball movement, high BBIQ, and making the extra pass.

Okoro has a great drive-and-dish game. But on a team like the Cavs, the ball rarely swings its way back around, and Okoro holds the 12.7% usage rate because of it.

Regardless, he's making the right plays and starting to get his confidence back.

 

[2 For The Brew]

Okoro strikes me as a player that the Heat, Jazz, Spurs, Dubs a few years ago, etc. would absolutely love to have. Teams with systems predicated on ball movement, high BBIQ, and making the extra pass.

All that plus individual and team defense.

 

[Dr No]

Not to be the wet blanket, but I think Okoro will cool off soon. Either he will revert to something closer to his shooting average on his own or teams will start playing defense on him and cause his shooting to cool off. Hopefully it’s the second option because we are a lot better team when people can’t play us 5 v 4 when we are on offense.

 

[Sebastian]

Not to be the wet blanket, but I think Okoro will cool off soon. Either he will revert to something closer to his shooting average on his own or teams will start playing defense on him and cause his shooting to cool off. Hopefully it’s the second option because we are a lot better team when people can’t play us 5 v 4 when we are on offense.

Or he will get better!

And then we're sitting in clover.

 

[Dr No]

Or he will get better!

And then we're sitting in clover.

That would be amazing. If he could go from offensively incompetent to a force to be reckoned in just a few months - well, again, that would be amazing.