Jacoby Brissett: Class Act

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Derek Anderson as a comp for Brissett. Was not expecting that.

Of course we should compare one of the most heady, game managing QB's this franchise has had with the absolute dunce with a howitzer who threw picks at will.

Duh. Get with it.

 

[CuriousMinds]

Of course we should compare one of the most heady, game managing QB's this franchise has had with the absolute dunce with a howitzer who threw picks at will.

Duh. Get with it.

you didn't read the post, some of youse let your emotions take over.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Its only a 40% difference, no biggie eh?

Brissett has a QBR of 12 when trailing with 4 mins or less to expiration. 2 mins or less : 2.8

I'm saying, he's a backup QB, and he's giving us legitimately great QB play when the game isn't on the line. Comparable to a top 10 QB. And then when he's asked to be more than that, he's failing. You want them to run a 2 minute offense, with time constraints, to run the ball more.

so there's a cap on time of possession?

Well, yeah, kinda. I'd like to remind you this is being done with a poor defense that doesn't get the ball back to the offense half the time.

You're arguing that the Browns need to run the ball more, when they average the 2nd most attempts and lead the NFL in possession. You want the offense to be...less successful but bleed more time off the clock somehow? I don't understand your line of thinking here. It's illogical.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

you didn't read the post, some of youse let your emotions take over.

Everyone here has read the post. You don't type that much.

If I'm picking someone who's being blinded by emotions, I think I'm going to lean towards the person who pushes out stats devoid of context to back up preconceived notions.

But please, keep showing all of us the error of our ways while you keep saying the team lost the Jets game because of Jacoby Brissett throwing an interception in the fourth quarter.

 

[CuriousMinds]

I'm saying, he's a backup QB, and he's giving us legitimately great QB play when the game isn't on the line. Comparable to a top 10 QB. And then when he's asked to be more than that, he's failing.

Who's responsible for putting Brissett in that position?

You want them to run a 2 minute offense, with time constraints, to run the ball more.

I've never said such......running the ball throughout the game reduces any possibilities of Brissett in these bad positions.

Well, yeah, kinda. I'd like to remind you this is being done with a poor defense that doesn't get the ball back to the offense half the time.

run the ball, taking time off the clock and the defense being off the field....the browns are doing the opposite of this hence the extra plays total y/y

You're arguing that the Browns need to run the ball more, when they average the 2nd most attempts and lead the NFL in possession. You want the offense to be...less successful but bleed more time off the clock somehow? I don't understand your line of thinking here. It's illogical.

like I said before, what is the cap that a team can run the ball or time of possession?

 

[CuriousMinds]

Everyone here has read the post. You don't type that much.

If I'm picking someone who's being blinded by emotions, I think I'm going to lean towards the person who pushes out stats devoid of context to back up preconceived notions.

But please, keep showing all of us the error of our ways while you keep saying the team lost the Jets game because of Jacoby Brissett throwing an interception in the fourth quarter.

I'm too simple for your intellect.....

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Who's responsible for putting Brissett in that position?



I've never said such......running the ball throughout the game reduces any possibilities of Brissett in these bad positions.



run the ball, taking time off the clock and the defense being off the field....the browns are doing the opposite of this hence the extra plays total y/y



like I said before, what is the cap that a team can run the ball or time of possession?

You keep responding to @Amherstcavsfan as if shortening the game makes the last two minutes disappear.

That's not what happens--there's just fewer snaps before those last two minutes. We'll still have to throw the small amount we do (we have the most designed-run plays in the NFL already). There will always be pressure situations at the end of the game, and shortening the game by running more beforehand doesn't change that.

 

[bs80]

Who's responsible for putting Brissett in that position?

Joe Woods

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Who's responsible for putting Brissett in that position?

The defense?

I've never said such......running the ball throughout the game reduces any possibilities of Brissett in these bad positions.

The Browns literally run the ball more than all but one team. They are one of the heaviest run teams of the last 10 years.

run the ball, taking time off the clock and the defense being off the field....the browns are doing the opposite of this hence the extra plays total y/y

They literally are the best team at the NFL at doing exactly what you describe. You're just wrong.

like I said before, what is the cap that a team can run the ball or time of possession?

60 minutes of football and the team also getting the ball after a score?! How is this hard?

 

[CBBI]

Stop comparing Baker's 4qrt performance with Brissett, the only former Brown to compare Brissett would be 2008 Derek Anderson.

Just so I have this right, you don't want to use Baker Mayfield's 2021 4th quarter QB rating of 64.5 in this discussion?

 

[CBBI]

Just so I have this right, you don't want to use Baker Mayfield's 2021 4th quarter QB rating of 64.5 in this discussion?

Ok fine, I guess we will also leave out Baker's 27.4 QB rating last year when trailing with 4 minutes to go or less too. Wouldn't be fair.

 

[CuriousMinds]

Wouldn't be fair.

"fair"?

why not include Mayfield's 2020 trailing 4 min or less? or the fact he was injured?

 

[CBBI]

"fair"?

why not include Mayfield's 2020 trailing 4 min or less? or the fact he was injured?

How about Brissett's 2021 QB rating in the 4th quarter? 87.9!

These sort of small sample size arguments are so stupid.

 

[CuriousMinds]

How about Brissett's 2021 QB rating in the 4th quarter? 87.9!

what does Brissett's performance in Miami's system have to do with what the BRowns do offensively?

These sort of small sample size arguments are so stupid.

I'd refrain from posting those algo feeds that boost about the Browns offensive eff than......

 

[CBBI]

what does Brissett's performance in Miami's system have to do with what the BRowns do offensively?

I'd refrain from posting those algo feeds that boost about the Browns offensive eff than......

The point is, citing something like Brissett's stats this year while trailing with under 2 minutes left when he's thrown 12 passes is just goofy.

But keep pushing that narrative. You are, after all, a curious mind.